04-03-2025, 13:52
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Re: President Trump 2.0
I’m the last one to want to advocate for Trump but is he actually stopping people from speaking freely, or is he pointing out that existing US law, compatible with the 1st amendment, allows the authorities to disperse mobs who squat in college premises and selectively bar students from accessing buildings based on their ethnic/religious affiliation?
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04-03-2025, 13:53
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Re: President Trump 2.0
If it's free speech which Trump and Musk agree with, it's the right kind of free speech and will be permitted on Twitter and in US universities.
If it's free speech which Trump and Musk don't agree with, it's the wrong kind of free speech and is therefore banned on Twitter and in US universities.
If the UK takes action against intimidation and harassment in the UK, then we're anti-free speech according to JD Vance.
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04-03-2025, 13:57
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Do I care what you think
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Stephen
Shocking bullying boy behaviour. Say whatever you want unless its something I don't agree with.
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Something we see all the time , he just gets more air time. Not forgetting he is a lame duck and vance is canvasing really early
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04-03-2025, 14:05
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Trollsplatter
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
If it's free speech which Trump and Musk agree with, it's the right kind of free speech and will be permitted on Twitter and in US universities.
If it's free speech which Trump and Musk don't agree with, it's the wrong kind of free speech and is therefore banned on Twitter and in US universities.
If the UK takes action against intimidation and harassment in the UK, then we're anti-free speech according to JD Vance.
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… which doesn’t answer the question I asked.
Again: is he trying to ban free speech, or is he reminding institutions that there are laws governing the right to protest which they must enforce (and admittedly threatening them if they don’t)?
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04-03-2025, 14:14
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cf.mega poster
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Re: President Trump 2.0
All depends on the definition of illegal and how law is interpreted. Sometimes what is illegal is nuanced and so can be therefore exploited for political gains with social media spin showing "bad" people "breaking" the law.
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04-03-2025, 14:15
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cf.mega poster
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Chris
… which doesn’t answer the question I asked.
Again: is he trying to ban free speech, or is he reminding institutions that there are laws governing the right to protest which they must enforce (and admittedly threatening them if they don’t)?
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Agreed. I posted seconds after your post so it's not a response to it. Let's see if anyone knows.
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04-03-2025, 14:17
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Trollsplatter
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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04-03-2025, 14:31
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Woke and proud !
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Re: President Trump 2.0
The world breathes a sigh of relief for 8 hours each day, when it's Trump/Vance's sleepy time. Then they can't say/do anything stupid for a few hours...
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04-03-2025, 14:42
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Chris
I’m the last one to want to advocate for Trump but is he actually stopping people from speaking freely, or is he pointing out that existing US law, compatible with the 1st amendment, allows the authorities to disperse mobs who squat in college premises and selectively bar students from accessing buildings based on their ethnic/religious affiliation?
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But he never mentioned dispersing mobs or squatting or students being barred from entry in his rage tweet, I never give him the benefit of the doubt regarding interpretation because it is always as basic as it looks, besides which he loves a mob, he released a load of 'em pretty much on day 1, also might explain why his wretch of a VP is so keen to do his bidding, he knows what the mob had planned for the last guy who didn't follow the dear leaders orders
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Originally Posted by Mr K
The world breathes a sigh of relief for 8 hours each day, when it's Trump/Vance's sleepy time. Then they can't say/do anything stupid for a few hours...
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Think they call it owning the libs
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04-03-2025, 16:19
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Remoaner
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Re: President Trump 2.0
https://bsky.app/profile/fintwitter..../3ljkskvic5726
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Canada's province of Ontario will slap a 25% export tax on electricity it sends to 1.5 million homes in Minnesota, Michigan and New York, in retaliation for President Trump's tariffs, said Doug Ford, Ontario's leader.
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04-03-2025, 17:41
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: President Trump 2.0
Ultimately a trade tit for tat and GDP dip will be reasonably expected by Trump. The real question is what the position is in the months and years ahead in terms of bringing American business investment back to the US.
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04-03-2025, 19:22
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: President Trump 2.0
27th February
https://apnews.com/article/trump-elo...d9cb03754e81b#
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President Trump required that “Agency Heads shall promptly undertake preparations to initiate large-scale reductions in force (RIFs), consistent with applicable law.” President Trump also directed that, no later than March 13, 2025, agencies develop Agency Reorganization Plans
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March 4th
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-abru...185407582.html
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In a new memo delivered to the heads of all federal agencies, the Office of Personnel Management ― the human resources agency of the federal government ― says it doesn’t actually have to comply with its previous instructions to fire all probationary employees, or people who have generally held their jobs for a year or less. Instead, per this memo, federal agencies have until Sept. 13 to come up with their own plans for reducing staff.
“OPM requests that agencies not issue any agency-specific rules until such rules have been reviewed and approved by OPM,” reads the revised guidance to federal agencies, issued by OPM acting Director Charles Ezell.
Trump’s walk-back means the heads of federal agencies don’t have to plow ahead with more haphazard firings of essential staff, but it’s not clear what this means for the thousands of employees who have already been fired.
The administration’s new directive comes after U.S. District Judge William Alsup last week ordered OPM to inform several federal agencies that it had no authority to direct them to carry out mass firings, and that such actions were likely illegal.
That ruling has already resulted in some federal agencies scrambling to rehire people they just fired. One of those agencies, the National Science Foundation, is currently trying to reinstate 84 employees it had fired as part of OPM’s directive. One of those 84 people told HuffPost on Monday that he and several of his colleagues learned they were getting their jobs back not from NSF, but from other coworkers and via the press.
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04-03-2025, 20:50
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: President Trump 2.0
So much bigly winning…
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04-03-2025, 21:10
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Re: President Trump 2.0
As he continues to be a complete twonker, and alienate more by the day, I wonder what the odds on Trump surviving 4 years are now ...
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04-03-2025, 21:22
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vox populi vox dei
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Paul
As he continues to be a complete twonker, and alienate more by the day, I wonder what the odds on Trump surviving 4 years are now ...
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He's making enemies by the millions ,I'd say he's on someone's list
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