Football : Season 2007/2008

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Iffy penalty??? Are you sure? As for the dissallowed goal, how many times do we see a player in the same position as Drogba was, not being penalised for interfering with play.

[Shadow Demon UK]

It was definately a penalty for Chelsea this time and the Liverpool one that wasn't given was a definate one as well, would have been intresting if that had been given as Liverpool would have had a bit more time to try and get another. Torres must have been injured, i can't believe he took him off tactically. The dissallowed goal was the right decision imo, Drogba was standing right in front of the keeper offside.

Liverpool have had enough luck, not just in this game or this year but over the past few seasons in the champions league and i'm glad it's over, they are just a one trophy team, Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal could all do what they do in just concentrate on one trophy each season and do well in it which is all they do, they are nothing special and if anyone thinks they are they are dillusional. When they start challenging for more than one trophy i may change my views but at the moment i think Liverpool deserve to win nothing.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

It was definately a penalty for Chelsea this time and the Liverpool one that wasn't given was a definate one as well, would have been intresting if that had been given as Liverpool would have had a bit more time to try and get another. Torres must have been injured, i can't believe he took him off tactically. The dissallowed goal was the right decision imo, Drogba was standing right in front of the keeper offside.

Liverpool have had enough luck, not just in this game or this year but over the past few seasons in the champions league and i'm glad it's over, they are just a one trophy team, Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal could all do what they do in just concentrate on one trophy each season and do well in it which is all they do, they are nothing special and if anyone thinks they are they are dillusional. When they start challenging for more than one trophy i may change my views but at the moment i think Liverpool deserve to win nothing.

hear hear.

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

It was definately a penalty for Chelsea this time and the Liverpool one that wasn't given was a definate one as well, would have been intresting if that had been given as Liverpool would have had a bit more time to try and get another. Torres must have been injured, i can't believe he took him off tactically. The dissallowed goal was the right decision imo, Drogba was standing right in front of the keeper offside.

Liverpool have had enough luck, not just in this game or this year but over the past few seasons in the champions league and i'm glad it's over, they are just a one trophy team, Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal could all do what they do in just concentrate on one trophy each season and do well in it which is all they do, they are nothing special and if anyone thinks they are they are dillusional. When they start challenging for more than one trophy i may change my views but at the moment i think Liverpool deserve to win nothing.

I don't think thats fair, you could say that United, or better yet Chelsea, have a massive amount of cash they can use to add depth and excellent players to their squad and completing at all against those teams is deserving of respect.

United have a habit of mixing a lot of products of their youth system with the occasional big spening. However, Chelsea are still a team and have reached their current high position because of the amount of money have came into. It's like playing Football Manager and cheating to get 150million to build a dream team.

Arsenal and Liverpool don't have anywhere near that money (or do, but don't) to spend on a star player in whichever position they are weakest. Liverpool have quite a good youth system, as do Arsenal who also have the ability to pick obsure but talented players.

I think a team that got to the semi-final of the Champions league, and 4th place in the Premiership is deserving of respect

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Damien

I don't think thats fair, you could say that United, or better yet Chelsea, have a massive amount of cash they can use to add depth and excellent players to their squad and completing at all against those teams is deserving of respect.

People seem to forget that United have spent 70 odd million this season, yet Chelsea do it and they are accused of buying titles etc reeks of pots calling kettles black to me

[pedantic]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

People seem to forget that United have spent 70 odd million this season, yet Chelsea do it and they are accused of buying titles etc reeks of pots calling kettles black to me

Sigh!

How many times must I post this.

There is a big difference between finding funds for players via solid business practices. Ticket sales, merchandising, sponsorship etc etc. and asking uncle Roman, to peel off another 50-100 million, from his back pocket.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

People seem to forget that United have spent 70 odd million this season, yet Chelsea do it and they are accused of buying titles etc reeks of pots calling kettles black to me

I did say United but Chelsea did it a lot more when the team was first being built..

[Russ]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

People seem to forget that United have spent 70 odd million this season, yet Chelsea do it and they are accused of buying titles etc reeks of pots calling kettles black to me

Before you wheel that one out again, consider the following.

Where did United's money come from?

Where did Chelsea's come from?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by pedantic

Sigh!

How many times must I post this.

There is a big difference between finding funds for players via solid business practices. Ticket sales, merchandising, sponsorship etc etc. and asking uncle Roman, to peel off another 50-100 million, from his back pocket.

In your opinion there is, in most other peoples there isn't, it amounts to the same thing, what's up, don't like the fact there is some one with as much financial clout now?

[pedantic]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

In your opinion there is, in most other peoples there isn't, it amounts to the same thing, what's up, don't like the fact there is some one with as much financial clout now?

If you re-read your post enough times, you'll eventually realise how pathetic that sounds.

I have no problems with Aresenal or Liverpool, they conduct their business as it should be done. Not with a sugar daddy.

Remind me, how Blackburn have done since 1995? Very little investment since uncle Jack grew a pair of giant wings and left. They don't have the ticket sales, merchandising or sponsorship, so now shop at woolies instead of Harrods, unlike when uncle Jack was in charge. You need to smell the coffee matey!

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

In your opinion there is, in most other peoples there isn't, it amounts to the same thing, what's up, don't like the fact there is some one with as much financial clout now?

People also forget how much Liverpool have spent since Benitez has been in charge.

In order to establish yourself as a big club/business/enterprise in today's day and age you need significant investment (thats what people forget). Roman has plied in his own money and so what. His business plan is to have chelsea being self financing within x years and he is working towards it by investing his own money.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by pedantic

If you re-read your post enough times, you'll eventually realise how pathetic that sounds.

Remind me, how Blackburn have done since 1995? Very little investment since uncle Jack grew a pair of giant wings and left. They don't have the ticket sales, merchandising or sponsorship, so now shop at woolies instead of Harrods, unlike when uncle Jack was in charge. You need to smell the coffee matey!

Was uncle Jack a multi billionaire? No he wasn't, he was a sick old man, bit like your current owner, incidently, you wondered what'll happen when he dies, if it's anything like what happend when his parents died it should be interesting. Say what you want about Roman, at least he appears to be a genuine fan, who has taken care of the clubs financial future should anything happen to him or he decides to walk away, where as your owner wouldn't give his own sisters the sweat of his substancial brow, I wonder who most people would rather have in charge of their club?

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

I would also add that Man U and Chelsea both now have a similar level of financial clout, irregardless of how they got to where they are now. Both teams can afford to pay, and have demonstrated to pay huge wages (if what we read about Ronaldo & Ferdinands new contracts are to be believed), so they are both playing on a level playing field.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

I would also add that Man U and Chelsea both now have a similar level of financial clout, irregardless of how they got to where they are now. Both teams can afford to pay, and have demonstrated to pay huge wages (if what we read about Ronaldo & Ferdinands new contracts are to be believed), so they are both playing on a level playing field.

Why is it that Chelsea fans simply never get the point about this?

No-one is denying Chelsea have one of the biggest financial backings in the world. Saying 'we don't like it' because someone is on the same level as United in that respect is pure ignorance.

What us United fans object to is when we (rightly) say Chelsea bought went out and bought success, and their fans say "Well United spent close to £60m on Rio and Rooney" as if it's the same thing!

It's not the same thing!

Our ability to spend that sort of money came from years of hard graft and many years of failure before that. Chelsea's ability to spend money, quite simply, came from a rich Russian throwing money about.

now if that's how a club is going to be run then fair enough, no-one is going to deny that sort of thing works and if a sugar daddy bought United out and spent hundreds of millions then I wouldn't complain.

But, Chelsea fans, please at least acknowledge your teams' rapid rise to success is purely down to Roman and his instant cash injection.

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Leeds fail in their pts appeal...