*ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please. - Page 78

dirtydog · 10-03-2005, 14:38

Ignition, please tell me whether the 30GB limit includes upload bandwidth, or is it just downloads?

Ignition · 10-03-2005, 14:39

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Originally Posted by jtwn

Ignition, question, does ntl have the capability to monitor usage throughout the network as of now?

Of course. Always have.

(Waits for all those people who thought NTL were incompetent and ruthless and just didn't realise how much they used to actually understand now that they are left alone because the company chooses to leave them alone).

jtwn · 10-03-2005, 14:43

Thanks.

But how much less does it cost ntl per gb than the ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1.50 plusnet apparently says BT wholesale charge?

purenuman · 10-03-2005, 14:44

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Originally Posted by Ignition

(Waits for all those people who thought NTL were incompetent and ruthless and just didn't realise how much they used to actually understand now that they are left alone because the company chooses to leave them alone).

They are all far tooooo busy thinking (or not) up the next gripe

10-03-2005, 14:45

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Originally Posted by ian@huth

I refer you to Ignitions post #1141 above.

Thanks, didn`t see that one. I did mention the source of the information, hence my need to question it

Ignition · 10-03-2005, 14:47

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Originally Posted by jtwn

Thanks.

But how much less does it cost ntl per gb than the ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1.50 plusnet apparently says BT wholesale charge?

Cost varies depending on the area. Some areas which are harder to upgrade than others naturally bandwidth would be more expensive.

If there's pre-existing fibre there and all that's needed to resegment is a new card in a uBR then wouldn't be too bad. If to facilitate the upgrade several thousand feet of new fibre would need to be laid obviously it increases the cost per GB a fair bit.

If usage is relatively light in an area so more customers are happily co-existing on kit that makes bandwidth cheaper, if it's an area full of monster users more upgrades and in turn higher cost per GB.

Obviously we can't charge each area differently, that'd be an absolute PITA.

dirtydog · 10-03-2005, 14:51

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

Ignition, please tell me whether the 30GB limit includes upload bandwidth, or is it just downloads?

Who said that :o

Why is it hard to get a straight answer to a straight question?

Ignition · 10-03-2005, 14:54

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

Who said that :o

Why is it hard to get a straight answer to a straight question?

It is when I don't know the answer!

EDIT: Even harder to answer when I'm also checking how my 'Linux ISO' downloads are doing.

dirtydog · 10-03-2005, 14:58

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Originally Posted by Ignition

It is when I don't know the answer!

Fair enough

Would you be able to find out? I would e-mail or ring ntl myself but I suspect any answer I get wouldn't necessarily be definitive.
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btw I never said I do (or don't) download or upload Linux distros.. I was just pointing out that it is a common reason for using p2p which is legal and uses a lot of bandwidth.

Jimmytheone · 10-03-2005, 14:59

Sorry if I have missed this bit of info (I did have a look) or if this a dumb question but are the limits in Gigabits or Gigabytes

? I assume that it is Gigabytes otherwise the limit is so low that I shall have to stick with the 300 kbit service.

Jimmy

**Paul** · 10-03-2005, 15:01

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Originally Posted by Jimmytheone

Sorry if I have missed this bit of info (I did have a look) or if this a dumb question but are the limits in Gigabits or Gigabytes

? I assume that it is Gigabytes otherwise the limit is so low that I shall have to stick with the 300 kbit service.

GigaBytes.

Ignition · 10-03-2005, 15:01

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

Fair enough

Would you be able to find out? I would e-mail or ring ntl myself but I suspect any answer I get wouldn't necessarily be definitive.
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btw I never said I do (or don't) download or upload Linux distros.. I was just pointing out that it is a common reason for using p2p which is legal and uses a lot of bandwidth.

Will make enquiries.
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Agreed, however I generally can't be bothered with that stuff. At the moment I'm downloading an ISO of a copyrighted game, Spellforce Order Of Dawn as a matter of fact. Then when that's done the two expansion packs are queued in my news reader awaiting my bandwidth.

I'm a very bad boy

Neil · 10-03-2005, 15:05

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Originally Posted by Ignition

At the moment I'm downloading an ISO of a copyrighted game, Spellforce Order Of Dawn as a matter of fact. Then when that's done the two expansion packs are queued in my news reader awaiting my bandwidth.

I'm a very bad boy

Respect for the honesty.

Rone · 10-03-2005, 15:09

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Originally Posted by Ignition

Will make enquiries.
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Agreed, however I generally can't be bothered with that stuff. At the moment I'm downloading an ISO of a copyrighted game, Spellforce Order Of Dawn as a matter of fact. Then when that's done the two expansion packs are queued in my news reader awaiting my bandwidth.

I'm a very bad boy

As long as its not on the NTL network of ocourse.

jtwn · 10-03-2005, 15:09

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Originally Posted by Ignition

Cost varies depending on the area. Some areas which are harder to upgrade than others naturally bandwidth would be more expensive.

If there's pre-existing fibre there and all that's needed to resegment is a new card in a uBR then wouldn't be too bad. If to facilitate the upgrade several thousand feet of new fibre would need to be laid obviously it increases the cost per GB a fair bit.

If usage is relatively light in an area so more customers are happily co-existing on kit that makes bandwidth cheaper, if it's an area full of monster users more upgrades and in turn higher cost per GB.

Obviously we can't charge each area differently, that'd be an absolute PITA.

OK, taken that into consideration, but there is no average cost you know of?