ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
22-10-2023, 22:50
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It’s mad that with all the streaming hyperbole over the years they are really looking at selling 30% more games for flatlining revenue. In the current climate that’s a massive real terms decrease regardless of how their PR teams (and favourable journalists) present it.
I think it adds weight to my view that the league were afraid of the auction shelved due to Covid due to massive uncertainty of anyone joining the auction and Sky correctly identifying the falling value of the product.
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22-10-2023, 23:17
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It’s mad that with all the streaming hyperbole over the years they are really looking at selling 30% more games for flatlining revenue. In the current climate that’s a massive real terms decrease regardless of how their PR teams (and favourable journalists) present it.
I think it adds weight to my view that the league were afraid of the auction shelved due to Covid due to massive uncertainty of anyone joining the auction and Sky correctly identifying the falling value of the product.
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It's not just an increase in games that could be sold for a flatlining revenue. The rights term is also being extended from three to four years.
So you could have a headline TV rights figure that's marginally more than the current figure. But in real terms, it could be substantially lower due to a combination of inflation, 30% more games and an extra year's rights.
I've read elsewhere that the Premier League sees overseas TV rights as where its revenue growth is, not UK TV rights.
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23-10-2023, 08:43
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Be interesting to see the average cost per game across each of the packages and how it compares with roughly the £9m and £5m that Sky and BT paid respectively last time.
The new rights will absorb the Bargain Bucket rights Amazon took so can factor that in at a zero value once we see the new arrangement for those games.
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23-10-2023, 09:32
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Be interesting to see the average cost per game across each of the packages and how it compares with roughly the £9m and £5m that Sky and BT paid respectively last time.
The new rights will absorb the Bargain Bucket rights Amazon took so can factor that in at a zero value once we see the new arrangement for those games.
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I suspect the newspapers and us will have to do their own calculations for that figure. I predict it won't be in the press release!
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23-10-2023, 09:59
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The league are obviously running out of ideas in how to monetise the product short of selling every game, sticking a sizeable number of games in each package is clearly trying to avoid the scenario where Setanta left the market due to falling below the “one game a week” threshold considered necessary for a regular subscription.
But… if Sky take three (including the top games), TNT and DAZN one each of substantially weaker games essentially DAZN would cannibalise TNT’s customer base reducing the value of their rights.
It’s not clear (from what I’ve read anyway) how these extra games on a Sunday (teams playing in Europe on a Thursday) will work. Will they be packaged so one broadcaster shows two or three games at once? Or will it be staggered. I’d imagine staggered but I doubt the average fan has the appetite for 4 or 5 games in different time slots when Sky have the cream of the crop anyway.
It’s also a gamble to assume DAZN aren’t looking for a buyer or investor who might take a different view.
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23-10-2023, 11:52
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I really want the games to be on just the 2 platforms so I don't have to sub to a 3rd one when football is being shown,as is present when Prime video show matches.
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23-10-2023, 15:02
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How would one watch DAZN on Virgin Media?
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23-10-2023, 15:42
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How would one watch DAZN on Virgin Media?
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Virgin only carry Pay Per View Boxing.
If you want DAZN 1 HD for £9.99 per month - you need SkyQ.
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23-10-2023, 15:46
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The DAZN App is coming at some stage available on 'selected' Virgin Media set top boxes according to this press release.
https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/new...-joshua-fight/
Last edited by TimeLord2018; 23-10-2023 at 15:55.
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23-10-2023, 15:47
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Virgin only carry Pay Per View Boxing.
If you want DAZN 1 HD for £9.99 per month - you need SkyQ.
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Oh great. If DAZN get the EPL would it be likely to be available on VMedia?
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23-10-2023, 16:00
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Oh great. If DAZN get the EPL would it be likely to be available on VMedia?
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Will it took Virgin Media FOUR years to launch on Virgin Media back in 2013 following The Parliamentary Group asking the then Chief Executive of Virgin Media in a letter.
https://mediaboyukblog.blogspot.com/...a-to.html#more
The channel was add later that month:
https://mediaboyukblog.blogspot.com/...to-launch.html
So ever say ever.
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23-10-2023, 16:36
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£9.99 cost is only if you tie-in for 12 months.
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Virgin only carry Pay Per View Boxing.
If you want DAZN 1 HD for £9.99 per month - you need SkyQ.
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23-10-2023, 16:57
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£9.99 cost is only if you tie-in for 12 months.
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Also if DAZN acquired Premier League rights, then I am sure their pricing would be reviewed, in a similar way as happened to Discovery + when TNT joined.
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25-10-2023, 01:20
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Personally I hope the Premier League rights are decided up between Sky and TNT but doubt it will work out like that.
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remember then Ofcom blocked sky sports from bidding for all EPL rights going forward for the "good of the consumer"
it then led to the consumer having to pay for 3 different subscriptions.
con men!
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25-10-2023, 11:27
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You could actually go to the games and not pay tv subs to anybody? It's the highest definition possible,
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