Riots

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Sirius

And so begins the fight back by the hand wringers

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16051275

Erm, ok. So how would you describe the proportionality of these sentences compared to MPs who got 12/16 months for fiddling expenses and were out with a quarter of time served?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by danielf

Erm, ok. So how would you describe the proportionality of these sentences compared to MPs who got 12/16 months for fiddling expenses and were out with a quarter of time served?

Very high, Mp's should have had far stiffer sentences than they received as a matter of principle, but you see i feel ALL sentences are to weak in this country, For instance LIFE should mean LIFE not some 10 year sentence in a hotel type room with colour telly and the offender being called MR in case it offends his human rights.

If we are to punish then we punish. Weak sentences born from liberal ideas of slapped hands and a GOOD talking to do not work in my eye's and will not stop re offending

You should know by now i don't fit in the wishy washy liberal take it easy on **** in case it upsets there human rights brigade

[Gary L]

Dave needs them to go down hard because he can't risk it hapening again. it's a deterrent to others.
but it would be nice if they thought like that with other crimes. a harsh enough sentence to deter others from doing the same.

but they don't. because it doesn't affect Daves governments laughability factor around the world.

[Pog66]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I would increase policing on the streets of London by double this amount. London used to be the safest place to live, it isn't anymore.

As long as the Council Tax in Hounslow is trebled to pay for it

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

People are scared to walk the streets in safety.

I'm not scared to walk the streets of my town!!

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I would insist that companies in the UK get contracts to create jobs - such as Bombardier - there would be no foreign companies involved....

You do realise that Bombardier is a Canadian company don't you? ....oh no that would involve research beyond the tabloid newspapers..

Originally Posted by danielf

Erm, ok. So how would you describe the proportionality of these sentences compared to MPs who got 12/16 months for fiddling expenses and were out with a quarter of time served?

Fidling expenses is not anywhere near the same level as rioting and looting, so the proportionality *is* wrong. The rioters should get longer ... much longer.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Fidling expenses is not anywhere near the same level as rioting and looting, so the proportionality *is* wrong. The rioters should get longer ... much longer.

But by fiddling expenses it does not send a very good message to the rest of the country in setting a example so l believe that they should have a severe sentence on the basis that it sends a strong message to others to not commit crimes be they those crimes fraud ,rioting or any other crime.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Pog66

You do realise that Bombardier is a Canadian company don't you? ....oh no that would involve research beyond the tabloid newspapers..

Excellent at the chance of Arthur carrying out research.

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Originally Posted by Pog66

I'm not scared to walk the streets of my town!!

Same here

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Pog66

I'm not scared to walk the streets of my town!!

Your town obviously doesn't have the required 'critical mass' of unstable elements. How about a short distance to the north of you in certain areas of Peterborough?

[Pog66]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Your town obviously doesn't have the required 'critical mass' of unstable elements. How about a short distance to the north of you in certain areas of Peterborough?

my comment was a response to the generic statement that "people are afraid to walk the streets". If you take it down to certain areas of any large town or city and at night then i would be wary - but that has been the case for many years IMHO

I think the government are going to fuel a lot of resentment over the way they are handling this .If we are going to get tough with criminals then we need to get tough on all criminals .At the moment there is a lot of anger in Britain over the riots from people who have lost everything and that is very understandable and their feelings should be taken into account ,but should not be the basis for a whole new sentencing structure which the government have now created .
The basis of our justice system is proportionality and fairness and at the moment the sentences given in some cases are way out of proportion to the crime and more importantly to similar crimes and sentences given out a week before the riots .What is going to happen when all this is over and some bored youth smashes up a bus shelter ,will they be treated as harshly or will it go back to wrist slapping liberal punishment .David Cameron has to be very careful from now on if he takes his eye off the ball then he will look like a knee jerking idiot ,plus he's going to have to build a lot more prisons

What sentencing structure has the government now created, Marty?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Chris

What sentencing structure has the government now created, Marty?

Although l am not a supporter of this government their sentencing policy is one which many people including myself will agree with.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by denphone

Although l am not a supporter of this government their sentencing policy is one which many people including myself will agree with.

If this tougher stance on sentencing is going to stay the same going forward i to will be happy

All we need now is for LIFE to mean LIFE for murdering scummy types

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

To me they should both resign and let someone else do a better job - ME.

Christ Arthur - if you ever got in power, I'd be outa this country on the first plane.

I think some others here on CF would be joining me!!

Originally Posted by denphone

Although l am not a supporter of this government their sentencing policy is one which many people including myself will agree with.

Again, what sentencing policy are we talking about here?