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			Actually better than Blair pre-1997 in one of them
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			20-10-2023, 10:34
			
			
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			I’m old enough to remember when 20mph speed limits was going to be a game-changer.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			20-10-2023, 10:41
			
			
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			The most entertaining part is listening how they are trying to spin it   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			20-10-2023, 10:53
			
			
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				The most entertaining part is listening how they are trying to spin it    
			
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 Indeed Greg Hands this morning was putting his spin on it, l think the only person that believed him was himself.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I’m old enough to remember when 20mph speed limits was going to be a game-changer. 
			
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				It’ll be interesting, but Rishi senses a winning formula… 
			
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			20-10-2023, 11:28
			
			
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			But it's only a by-election. People are just making a point but will change when it comes to the general election..... (yeah right). Roland sorry Rishi did pick a good time to be out of the country....
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			20-10-2023, 11:39
			
			
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			Hooray and the only dramatic turnaround I would like to see is for the Tories to shut the door on the way out.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			20-10-2023, 13:29
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  denphone
					 
				 
				Indeed Greg Hands this morning was putting his spin on it, l think the only person that believed him was himself. 
			
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 He won't of believed it either Den. He'll have been given the short straw to parrott some poor excuse lines pre written for him days ago. If I was a Tory (shudders), I'd be changing course very quickly not trying to maintain the status quo. 
 
The Tories (and Brexit) are on the way out. They've more than had their chance and failed  making this country considerably  worse off.  Fortunately the more sensible next generation are coming  through, as the Tory oap support inevitably declines. The longer they leave it till the next election the less MPs they'll have.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Amusingly enough, the votes cast for the Reform UK candidates in Tamworth and Mid-Beds were more than the margin between the Conservative candidate winning or losing...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			20-10-2023, 14:49
			
			
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 That means nothing. It’ll be in the manifesto.
 
This is a by election with a very poor turnout. The test, of course, will be a General Election, when people have to start think things through properly. Still over a year to go.  
 
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				But it's only a by-election. People are just making a point but will change when it comes to the general election..... (yeah right). Roland sorry Rishi did pick a good time to be out of the country.... 
			
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 That is the question.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			20-10-2023, 17:45
			
			
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			Some interesting thoughts and analysis from Rob Ford, a politics professor. 
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			Labour are going to Win, that’s a given.  The interesting part is by how much?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Labour are going to Win, that’s a given.  The interesting part is by how much? 
			
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 I hope you're ready for the rapid exodus of wealth and investment that will result.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I hope you're ready for the rapid exodus of wealth and investment that will result. 
			
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