General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4. - Page 73

Horizon · 14-08-2013, 22:11

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Originally Posted by andy_m

This is interesting. What would you consider to be short term?

A year to 18 months.

Bt has spent a lot of money on sport. It wants to attract people to its platform not someone else's. But I agree with Fries, eventually BT will need to recoup that money and wholesale, but not yet.

denphone · 14-08-2013, 22:16

Sorry Horizon but deals can be sealed very quickly nowadays and one suspects there have been top level talks on a day to day basis since those meetings and the result of that is a deal has now been agreed in my humble opinion.

Media Boy UK · 14-08-2013, 22:17

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Originally Posted by Horizon

A year to 18 months.

Bt has spent a lot of money on sport. It wants to attract people to its platform not someone else's. But I agree with Fries, eventually BT will need to recoup that money and wholesale, but not yet.

'Dazzyk' over on DS Forum makes an good point.

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So why would they put bt sports 1 and 2 on their website virgin anywhere live today?
Makes no sense unless they going to be releasing them.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=1697

Dave42 · 14-08-2013, 22:18

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Originally Posted by denphone

Sorry Horizon but deals can be sealed very quickly nowadays and one suspects there have been top level talks on a day to day basis since those meetings and the result of that is a deal has now been agreed in my humble opinion.

yes and the VM anytime signs say a deal done too BT would not let VM put the placeholders there for nothing and they was new channel numbers for ESPN to

andy_m · 14-08-2013, 22:20

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Originally Posted by Horizon

A year to 18 months.

Bt has spent a lot of money on sport. It wants to attract people to its platform not someone else's. But I agree with Fries, eventually BT will need to recoup that money and wholesale, but not yet.

Bt have the rights for 3 years. 18 months is mid term, not short term, surely?

johnathome · 14-08-2013, 22:20

If it isn't on VM by the PL kick off then the value of the product on offer goes down IMO.

Anyone know how many people have the XL pack? If VM pay BT £3 per XL subscriber i'd bet that will bring in more than BT would get in subs from a standalone via VM (even tho i don't know the figure).

Media Boy UK · 14-08-2013, 22:21

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Originally Posted by andy_m

Bt have the rights for 3 years. 18 months is mid term, not short term, surely?

But they have the rights to FA Cup and SPFL for longer.

Horizon · 14-08-2013, 22:23

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Originally Posted by denphone

Sorry Horizon but deals can be sealed very quickly nowadays and one suspects there have been top level talks on a day to day basis since those meetings and the result of that is a deal has now been agreed in my humble opinion.

Well, obviously, by 12.45 on Saturday which is the first game that BT will show, we'll all know either way.

All I would add is that I would question what has changed between when the Liberty people met BT three weeks ago and now. Nothing, would be my answer. VM/LIberty know what price BT want for their stuff and I don't see that changing in the short term.

14-08-2013, 22:25

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

But they have the rights to FA Cup and SPFL for longer.

Just like ESPN had the rights to various sports for longer, the next company will just buy out the remaining contracts.

Dave42 · 14-08-2013, 22:26

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Originally Posted by Horizon

Well, obviously, by 12.45 on Saturday which is the first game that BT will show, we'll all know either way.

All I would add is that I would question what has changed between when the Liberty people met BT three weeks ago and now. Nothing, would be my answer. VM/LIberty know what price BT want for their stuff and I don't see that changing in the short term.

BT would not allow VM to put placeholders on VM anytime today for nothing and VM to give out new channel numbers for ESPN

trevrpb · 14-08-2013, 22:26

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Originally Posted by Dave42

yes and the VM anytime signs say a deal done too BT would not let VM put the placeholders there for nothing and they was new channel numbers for ESPN to

I dont see any BT Sports placeholders on Virgin Anywhere?

Dave42 · 14-08-2013, 22:29

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Originally Posted by trevrpb

I dont see any BT Sports placeholders on Virgin Anywhere?

there taken down now but pic is here

http://vmhd.blogspot.co.uk/

there were up a short time till pic started getting posted then taken down and also showed new channel numbers for ESPN

denphone · 14-08-2013, 22:29

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

It was remove some time later.

But the genie has come out of the bottle now and nothing is going to put it back in.

andy_m · 14-08-2013, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

But they have the rights to FA Cup and SPFL for longer.

Meaning no disrespect to the greatest cup competition in the World, or the exciting new restructure of the Scottish league, but you and I both know that it's the Premier League rights that will sell subscriptions and that, rightly or wrongly, it is those rights which will determine the value of the channel.

Horizon · 14-08-2013, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

'Dazzyk' over on DS Forum makes an good point.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=1697

Another poster on here already said that Vm's managment ordered the network people to prepare for BT sports launching, in the event that a deal was done.

They can prepare all they want and have webpages ready, doesn't mean its actually going to happen.

Why don't we all just wait until 12.45 Saturday? If BT Sports appears, then that is great for those people that like football.