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Old 01-07-2008, 17:52   #10696
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

I used to trus tBT also had plenty of help from Ben who has now resigned from BT the new CEO seem s to be lacking in Bens integrity so far.
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Old 01-07-2008, 17:53   #10697
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Just as an example of Phisihing, just got this.

Clicked on it to show what I was talking about and went straight to the site with no interception from Windows etc.

Admin edit (Chris T): DO NOT post links to websites that you know or reasonably suspect are engaged in fraudulent activity.

perhaps a few of you should also try it - if you get to the site then you ought to sign up for Webwise as soon as it is available.

EDITED TO SAY - DO NOT GIVE YOUR DETAILS !!!!!
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Old 01-07-2008, 17:57   #10698
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by Sirius
Or Is that the amount of users that BT will have left after Phorm-121media's spyware system is activated on the BT network ?????
That would be about right.

---------- Post added at 16:57 ---------- Previous post was at 16:56 ----------

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Clicked on it to show what I was talking about and went straight to the site with no interception from Windows etc.

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perhaps a few of you should also try it - if you get to the site then you ought to sign up for Webwise as soon as it is available.
Its in Firefox`s database, it will block the site from loading.
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Old 01-07-2008, 17:59   #10699
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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and Webwise will magically make it all ok ? open your eyes hammy.

The phishing feature was added on to counter the "Whats in it for me" and to be honest the free phishing filter isn't enough to make me want to be profiled and sold

The stupidity of people will never be overcome by laws and technology, human nature is a very funny thing.

DO NOT WANT.
All BT or Phorm need to do to silence all of their critics is publish their wonderful research document "Premium Browsing: Research Findings" which proves beyond all doubt, that what we want what we want what we really really want is PHORM!!!

On the strength of that famed but very very private commercially sensitive research, they went and got themselves up to the top of their heads in the Phorm/Webwise cess pit, suffered months of atrocious PR, carried out some secret trials that according to the ICO, broke the law in all probability, inspired disgruntled employees into whistleblowing and document leaking on more than one occasion (network diagrams, 2006 trial report), found themselves in a situation where they were too scared of the facts coming out even to pursue legal action against protestors like Alex - so it must be pretty convincing stuff in that research. Yet they won't publish it. Strange isn't it? You'd think they would be rushing to print it. That's the document that proves we are a scaremongering bunch of geeky anorak wearing nerds who are out of touch with the public mood. Isn't it?

They have kept their options open and said they "might" publish it in the future. I wonder what sort of scenario would persuade them to publish? Perhaps the employment tribunal of a dismissed manager? (It made sense at the time guv, there was this research that said everyone wanted it...) - or the first Webwise court case? (Honest your honour, we had massive public support, here's the research, and we had sought, er, took, er obtained er legal stuff advice sort of).

Go on BT - publish it before someone leaks it (which they mustn't do, really, no, it wouldn't be right - no don't).
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

[QUOTE=HamsterWheel;34589086]It will certainly help a lot, and of course Phorm's main help is for the ISPs to make a few quid to help them expand bandwidth.


The ISP could have used all the extra bandwidth needed to mirror this data instead!

The more successful Phorm gets the more bandwidth the ISP has to provide to service it?

The only winners being Phorm & the advertisers.
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Old 01-07-2008, 18:03   #10701
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Just as an example of Phisihing, just got this.

Clicked on it to show what I was talking about and went straight to the site with no interception from Windows etc.

link removed

perhaps a few of you should also try it - if you get to the site then you ought to sign up for Webwise as soon as it is available.

EDITED TO SAY - DO NOT GIVE YOUR DETAILS !!!!!
Both IE7 & Opera warned me about this site so what is your point?
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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That would be about right.

---------- Post added at 16:57 ---------- Previous post was at 16:56 ----------



Its in Firefox`s database, it will block the site from loading.
I couldn't get to that site in IE or FF - got a 404. Maybe I have all the protection I need already without Webwise.
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Old 01-07-2008, 18:10   #10703
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Just as an example of Phisihing, just got this.

Clicked on it to show what I was talking about and went straight to the site with no interception from Windows etc.

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perhaps a few of you should also try it - if you get to the site then you ought to sign up for Webwise as soon as it is available.

EDITED TO SAY - DO NOT GIVE YOUR DETAILS !!!!!
Firefox (which is free and has the phishing filter turned on by default) highlighted this as a phishing site with a nice big red warning page.
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Old 01-07-2008, 18:11   #10704
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by HamsterWheel View Post
Just as an example of Phisihing, just got this.

Clicked on it to show what I was talking about and went straight to the site with no interception from Windows etc.

Admin edit (Chris T): DO NOT post links to websites that you know or reasonably suspect are engaged in fraudulent activity.

perhaps a few of you should also try it - if you get to the site then you ought to sign up for Webwise as soon as it is available.

EDITED TO SAY - DO NOT GIVE YOUR DETAILS !!!!!
I've seen some dumb forum posts in my time but that takes the biscuit.

Please do not post any such links again in the future as it only lends credence to them and risks exposing our forum members to online fraud. We will not tolerate any further breaches of this common sense rule.

Incidentally, when clicking on that link from the Firefox 3 web browser, default security settings prevent the page from opening because it's a known phishing site. No webwise required.
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Old 01-07-2008, 18:12   #10705
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Your not very good at this are you.??????

This is what firefox does for FREE and without selling my surfing information to the highest bidder.



NEXT attempt at proving Web-spy is good for us
As does IE7, and I don't recall having to pay for that. Maybe Hammy is still on Windows 3.1.1?
 
Old 01-07-2008, 18:15   #10706
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Bona Fide applications already protect those who really are WEBWISE tout your spyware elsewhere it's not needed here now foxtrot oscar kindly
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Just as an example of Phisihing, just got this.

Clicked on it to show what I was talking about and went straight to the site with no interception from Windows etc.

{snip}

perhaps a few of you should also try it - if you get to the site then you ought to sign up for Webwise as soon as it is available.

EDITED TO SAY - DO NOT GIVE YOUR DETAILS !!!!!
Well i'm running a Kent rootkit right now, and it let me go straight there!
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Old 01-07-2008, 18:21   #10708
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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I couldn't get to that site in IE or FF - got a 404. Maybe I have all the protection I need already without Webwise.
Most likely, anyone save that link can PM so i can pass it on too the vendors, meant to save it.

Thanks.
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Old 01-07-2008, 18:22   #10709
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Just as an example of Phisihing, just got this.

Clicked on it to show what I was talking about and went straight to the site with no interception from Windows etc.

[link removed - don't visit links posted on forums unless you trust the peson posting it]

perhaps a few of you should also try it - if you get to the site then you ought to sign up for Webwise as soon as it is available.

EDITED TO SAY - DO NOT GIVE YOUR DETAILS !!!!!
"just got this..."

In other words you went to this site as a result of an email.

I'll type this very slowly as you obviously have trouble reading - Webwise does not prevent phishing emails. It has nothing to do with phishing emails.

The fact that you are getting phishing emails is proof that you are too trusting (I'm being polite) and don't care who you give your personal information to.

Please explain to us all how Webwise will reduce the number of phishing emails.

P.S. Why the warning not to give our details?

Are you saying that you should make that choice for us all and we MUST trust the people that YOU have faith in with the information that YOU decide is acceptable and only block those people or companies that YOU wouldn't give information to?

Think about what you've just posted and you may move from your current standpoint and realise that Webwise removes that choice from all of us in all cases. Only you should ever be allowed to decide who you share your information with and no-one else should ever have access to customers data at an ISP level.

If you are happy to provide Phorm with information about your internet usage then that should be a contractual arrangement between you and Phorm and should not require any involvment from the ISPs. THe whole reason that te BT trials have been delayed for the last two months is that the Webwise system was designed to be undetectable and was meant to be used without the customers' knowldge or consent. They can't get it working as a legitimate tool because it was written as a spyware application.

You are either extremely ill-informed or you don't want people to know and understand the truth about Phorm and Webwise. Either way I hope that visitors to this forum will see through you and disregard your posts.
 
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

For what it is worth, Opera has excellent built in anti-phishing, all for free. Couldn't test it on that link as it had been deleted... Only those using IE6 or some other earlier browsers will have no anti-phishing, now a very small number of users.
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