Starmer’s chronicles

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

If you read this thread back for 2025, you'll notice that there's very little said about Starmer by the known left leaning forum members.

Such people have mainly commented on Farage and the Tories rather than defending Labour.

This tells me that they are not impressed by Starmer but are too embarrassed to say so.

I wasn't impressed with Starmer before he stood for the leadership let alone became PM. The Labour party has lost its way and I doubt it'll ever head in a direction I'd be happy with. I did vote Labour at the last GE - probably won't next time. I'll probably continue to vote Labour at a local level as the Councillors are a bit more aligned with my views and seem to care a bit more for the grass roots.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by Russ

Or are giving him time on parity with how long the Tories were in power for.

Kind of wishful thinking really that they’ll be in power to match their 14 years don’t you think? At this rate they could be out in 1 term which kind of answer the question.

Originally Posted by peanut

Kind of wishful thinking really that they’ll be in power to match their 14 years don’t you think?

If it were the other way around he soon be moaning about the conservatives/reform/whoever, not after 14 years.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by peanut

Kind of wishful thinking really that they’ll be in power to match their 14 years don’t you think? At this rate they could be out in 1 term which kind of answer the question.

I doubt it. It’s unlikely any party could make a mess of things to compare with the Tories 2010-24.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Russ

I doubt it. It’s unlikely any party could make a mess of things to compare with the Tories 2010-24.

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And maybe you’d end up getting banned/suspended for mentioning the past etc

Reform is the party that is on message with the British public. Labour will be nowhere to be seen after 2029.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Reform is the party that is on message with the British public. Labour will be nowhere to be seen after 2029.

It’s on message with the parts of the public who think difficult issues can be solved with simple ideas.

As for not being anywhere to be seen, say goodbye to the NHS.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Russ

It’s on message with the parts of the public who think difficult issues can be solved with simple ideas.

As for not being anywhere to be seen, say goodbye to the NHS.

That's one of my worries if Reform become the Government.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Reform is the party that is on message with the British public. Labour will be nowhere to be seen after 2029.

Unlikely.

[Itshim]

Perhaps a change of name from NHS to" national hold your hand you poor hard done by thing "

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Russ

It’s on message with the parts of the public who think difficult issues can be solved with simple ideas.

As for not being anywhere to be seen, say goodbye to the NHS.

Well, given the resultsof the elections, it is not just a small minority who agree with them. You can judge how accurate your statement is on dealing with issues once you start seeing the results that Reform UK councils actually make.

It sounds as if you actually believe the NHS scare that Labour has used against the Conservatives for many, many decades. Clearly, you haven't taken into account of the fact that this still hasn't happened, and that the most significant increase in private sector involvement in the NHS happened under Blair's Labour Government.

Now you turn the same faux concern against Reform. Do change the record.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, given the resultsof the elections, it is not just a small minority who agree with them. You can judge how accurate your statement is on dealing with issues once you start seeing the results that Reform UK councils actually make.

It sounds as if you actually believe the NHS scare that Labour has used against the Conservatives for many, many decades. Clearly, you haven't taken into account of the fact that this still hasn't happened, and that the most significant increase in private sector involvement in the NHS happened under Blair's Labour Government.

Now you turn the same faux concern against Reform. Do change the record.

I'm looking forwards to seeing the results too, I'm also looking forward to Reform discovering populist policies cost money, the same money local government has been starved of for many many years (by the way it was your old team that's stuffed it up for your new team. I find that quite amusing).

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

That's one of my worries if Reform become the Government.

The Labour mob will have done away with you by then so no worries about reform

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Reform is the party that is on message with the British public. Labour will be nowhere to be seen after 2029.

4 years to the next election. That's a long time and a lot can happen. The fall out from Farage's buddy, ' the holy orange one' will be there for all to see. The fall out from the dregs that are Reform candidates given power in councils will also be apparent.

The working class voting for Reform are those that will be most targeted by Reform . Forget PIP , forget the NHS, forget public services. Lets hope they don't have to find out the hard way.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Mr K

4 years to the next election. That's a long time and a lot can happen. The fall out from Farage's buddy, ' the holy orange one' will be there for all to see. The fall out from the dregs that are Reform candidates given power in councils will also be apparent.

The working class voting for Reform are those that will be most targeted by Reform . Forget PIP , forget the NHS, forget public services. Lets hope they don't have to find out the hard way.

Wales has up to now not learnt that the NHS is not safe it it's hands

[Sephiroth]

To all you Labour supporters who still don't comment on Starmer's outcomes so far:

Do you think Starmer and his team are doing a good job and if do why? I'll concede that Wes Streeting seems to be doing a reasonable job.

All I see is Reform bad this, Tories bad that but you seem too embarrassed to criticise your darling Labour who are royally screwing up the people and the economy.