Madeleine McCann

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by ikthius

media hype, that probably they want you to hear, to make you all believe they are innocent by using their family and friends to push these stories out....

remember they lied from the start

My post was rather tongue in cheek.

Lied ? source ?

[punky]

Don't think its been mentioned yet, but the case against the McCanns is going to be turned over to the public prosecutor:

Papers outlining the case against the parents of missing Madeleine McCann are expected to be passed to the public prosecutor later.

Portimao-based prosecutor Jose Cunha de Magalhaes e Meneses will then decide whether to bring charges against Kate and Gerry McCann in connection with Madeleine's disappearance.

http://www.itv.com/News/DailyDebateA...-McCanns3.html

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Gavin

Don't think its been mentioned yet, but the case against the McCanns is going to be turned over to the public prosecutor:



http://www.itv.com/News/DailyDebateA...-McCanns3.html

I think danielf mentioned it, I dont think that this is really big news though ? once they were made official suspects. Portugese law states that the case must be reviewed by a public prosecutor.

[ikthius]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

My post was rather tongue in cheek.

Lied ? source ?

so they only left the kids for 30 mins, oh wait, did that not end up to be left them for an hour? if thats not a lie I dont know what is, especially if your kids are involved.

something has never seemed right in this case from the offset.
for me anyway.

but to be honet I for one have had enough of them

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by ikthius

so they only left the kids for 30 mins, oh wait, did that not end up to be left them for an hour? if thats not a lie I dont know what is, especially if your kids are involved.

something has never seemed right in this case from the offset.
for me anyway.

but to be honet I for one have had enough of them

whoah steady tiger !! I was merely asking


And as for the bit i have bolded above. I couldnt agree more !

[ikthius]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

whoah steady tiger !! I was merely asking


And as for the bit i have bolded above. I couldnt agree more !

nothing about you dude.

just about the whole situation, there are other kids out there who are still being abducted, but for these two they just want media exposure, even if she is found in either state, they will not be finished with the media.

they really should have been strung up from the offset because they were not interested in their kids, where as people who cant have kids would probably have done a better job.....

I wish i could get my computer to not show anything about them at all

ik

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by Chris T

... and the Portuguese legal status of 'Arguido' doesn't make them guilty either.

I'm staggered that after so long, so many people on this side of the Channel seem unwilling or unable to take on board the simple fact that the Portuguese have a judicial, inquisitorial system that is different to ours, with different checks and balances built in.

Far too many column inches (and forum posts) have been made out of this.

Chris, no one here is saying they are definately guilty. People are saying it could be. They are suspects, and the police are treating them as such. No one knows for a fact if the police are looking at them as 'real' suspects.

As for your comments regarding people on this side of teh Channel, you should see what is being written about them in Portugal, and what the Portuguese actually thing of them. I'd assume that they know the technocalities of the Arguido system (in fact the entire legal process) a lot better than us, and its still not stopping them thinking the McGanns have had a large part to play in Maddie's dissappearance.

Originally Posted by ikthius

nothing about you dude.

just about the whole situation, there are other kids out there who are still being abducted, but for these two they just want media exposure, even if she is found in either state, they will not be finished with the media.

they really should have been strung up from the offset because they were not interested in their kids, where as people who cant have kids would probably have done a better job.....

I wish i could get my computer to not show anything about them at all

ik

Kate McCann gave an interview to "The Independent" in early August ...

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/cri...cle2836182.ece

After reading it, do you stand by your comments, especially the "strung up" remark? And do the other members of the McCann's party also deserve that sentence? Some of them also left their children alone on the same basis, or does your judgement only apply to the parents whose child disappeared?

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by freezin

After reading it, do you stand by your comments, especially the "strung up" remark? And do the other members of the McCann's party also deserve that sentence? Some of them also left their children alone on the same basis, or does your judgement only apply to the parents whose child disappeared?

Frankly, the McCanns do deserve some of the blame, I'm afraid...

Bearing in mind the fact that the Mark Warner complexes make a virtue of their childcare facilities, why the hell weren't they being used? Moreover, it wouldn't occur to anyone to leave the kids alone (at 3 and 2) in this country, so why was it alright to do so in a foreign country?

Ignoring the fact that, in 90% of cases, a family member is involved in the disappearance, I don't particularly believe that the McCanns were implicitly involved. However, and as unfortunate as it may be, their actions contributed to what happened

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

My post was rather tongue in cheek.

Lied ? source ?

I don't know if all of these were directly from the mouth's of the McCanns, or whether it was mis-reporting by the media, but:-

1) We checked on them every half hour.
Later changed to "We checked on them regularly/very regularly/very, very regularly)*

2) We could see the apartment from the tapas bar.
They could see the apartment building, but not their ground floor apartment.

3) The bedroom window shutter had been jemmied open.
The resort manager said that the shutter had not been forced open.

4) The apartment doors were locked.
The apartment doors were left unlocked.

5) Each member of the party took a turn in checking on all the children.
In that case, how did Gerry McCann cross paths with another woman in their party, who was going to check on her children, after he had checked his children at 9:05? (This was the same woman who claimed she had seen a man carrying a child in his arms).

* I have read a couple of different reports about the 9:30 check. One report says that another member of the group checked on the McCann children by simply listening at the door to check they weren't crying. Another report says that he looked in the window (but I thought the shutter was down?) and saw the 2 younger children and some crumpled bedclothes, which he assumed Madeleine was asleep under. Either way, he didn't see Madeleine.

[mrmistoffelees]

Leicestershire Police and Social Services to meet discuss the case according to the bbc ticker

I wonder why ?

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Leicestershire Police and Social Services to meet discuss the case according to the bbc ticker

I wonder why ?

Because their duty of care demands that they do so?

'Meet to discuss' is not the same as 'confiscate their kids'. No doubt that's how some of the tabloids will spin it tomorrow however. I'm disapppointed that even the BBC considers it big enough news to put it on the ticker.

This wall-to-wall coverage is becoming stifling. They were followed home from the airport by a helicopter yesterday, for pity's sake ...

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

If what's been dreported on the story on the beeb is true then Social services and the police are meeting this week to discuss the case. It will be interesting to see what the outcome of that is.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6986514.stm

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Chris T

Because their duty of care demands that they do so?

'Meet to discuss' is not the same as 'confiscate their kids'. No doubt that's how some of the tabloids will spin it tomorrow however. I'm disapppointed that even the BBC considers it big enough news to put it on the ticker.

This wall-to-wall coverage is becoming stifling. They were followed home from the airport by a helicopter yesterday, for pity's sake ...

What did you expect ???

P.S Duty of care ?

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

What did you expect ???

It's exactly what I expected, sadly.

P.S Duty of care ?

Yes ...