*ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please. - Page 71

Mattitude · 09-03-2005, 13:35

Sorry if this has already been answered but now I'm on 2mb is the 1GB daily limit inclusive of upload, or is it just download?

punky · 09-03-2005, 14:04

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Originally Posted by Mattitude

Sorry if this has already been answered but now I'm on 2mb is the 1GB daily limit inclusive of upload, or is it just download?

Just download. There is an "unwritten" cap of 300meg/day for upload. I don't think anyone has been contacted over it though,

pop80_uk · 09-03-2005, 18:00

Right I know about these bandwidths and that they apply on the new speed upgrades, this concerns me for five main reasons:

1) These bandwidths will be eaten away at by pop ups and ad's
2) These bandwidths will be eaten away by Bulk mails
3) These bandwidths will be eaten away by spam mails
4) These bandwidths will be eaten away at by extended forwards and foward attachments
5) These bandwidths will be eaten away at by online surveys

These are effectively out of the average users control and will effect their bandwidth usage. So say the odd user on the 300K service (much like me

) Uses the net for 6 hours a day, uses e-bay to buy and sell and sends alot of e-mails.
Then general shopping and surfing, based on this I have estimated I will be 500mb over the monthly band width.

Am I correct in my guesstimates and are the problems as I evisage?

Thanks people.

nostra · 09-03-2005, 18:03

try this bandwidth calculator made buy the guys over at chetnet

http://ben.cheetham.me.uk/data-usage-calculator

very useful

dirtydog · 09-03-2005, 18:24

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Originally Posted by cr80123

It's all gone very quiet from the people who were adamant that hard caps were necessary!
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Ian what are you on about? Where does it say other customers WILL be contacted? Surely it's exactly the same situation as now, unless you know something different?

Look here.. if they do exactly as they say here, it is very bad news..

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3. How flexible will ntl be about these new limits?

We will be very flexible. Our objective is only to limit very frequent or persistent heavy network use that can impact other customers. Therefore we will ONLY contact customers who exceed the daily data limit for three or more days in any consecutive 14-day period.

If you occasionally exceed your data limit, it will not be a problem. Remember our goal is to give freedom and easy usage to our customers. This rule ensures that you have peace of mind and that we are able to reduce the unfair prolonged usage by a small number.

http://www.ntlworld.com/service_update.html

So go over 1GB/day for 3 days and you will be contacted. Personally I average about 2GB/day and sometimes go to 3 or 4GB.

Neil · 09-03-2005, 18:26

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

Personally I average about 2GB/day and sometimes go to 3 or 4GB.

Then you need an ISP with no download limits.

ntl have a 1GB per day limit, & you are already going to do double that constantly (& then some)

dirtydog · 09-03-2005, 18:35

The ntl quote I just posted gives the lie to the idea that there is no hard cap on the 2Mb and 3Mb services. Just what will they *do* if I regularly exceed the limit, apart from write to me? It says they will advise people to moderate their usage, but what if people don't, then what?

btw Neil, you presumably think the caps are fine and think 2GB a day is excessive do you?

ian@huth · 09-03-2005, 18:40

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

The ntl quote I just posted gives the lie to the idea that there is no hard cap on the 2Mb and 3Mb services. Just what will they *do* if I regularly exceed the limit, apart from write to me? It says they will advise people to moderate their usage, but what if people don't, then what?

btw Neil, you presumably think the caps are fine and think 2GB a day is excessive do you?

Who has lied to you? NTL haven't, have they. All this talk of hard caps and soft caps has come from peoples interpretation of what NTL mean by the clauses in their T&Cs and AUP.

dirtydog · 09-03-2005, 18:42

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Originally Posted by ian@huth

Who has lied to you? NTL haven't, have they. All this talk of hard caps and soft caps has come from peoples interpretation of what NTL mean by the clauses in their T&Cs and AUP.

I didn't say ntl had lied or anyone had 'lied', maybe that was a poor choice of words. I was pointing out that many here and elsewhere are saying ntl won't be enforcing the 30GB limits. The quote I posted strongly suggests they will be doing just that.

Rone · 09-03-2005, 18:55

6. Is there a plan for very 'power users' who exceed the given limits?

"We are considering a range of new services especially for customers who want or need to download large amounts of data - but which will avoid impacting other, ordinary customers"

Well that sounds interesting, lets hope there's something that doesnt cost the earth though.

Neil · 09-03-2005, 19:36

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

btw Neil, you presumably think the caps are fine

Far from it.

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

and think 2GB a day is excessive do you?

For a residential connection I do, yes.

I can't see how anyone can justify downloading 60GB per month, on a home connection-now that's not to say that it can't be done, but there are only so many "Linux Distros" out there at once.

I don't give a monkey's puffhole what/how much people actually download, I am totally against caps, but I am also against people who claim that that their 60GB per month downloads are all legal/perfectly normal for a home connection, & therefore should be allowed.

ntl don't/won't allow it, which is why I said that you need an uncapped ISP for your particular "needs".

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Originally Posted by Rone

6. Is there a plan for very 'power users' who exceed the given limits?

There was originally, about 2 years ago (alledgedly), but it turned outto be nothing more than BS from Aizad the "bovine excretement king" Hussain.

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Originally Posted by Rone

"We are considering a range of new services especially for customers who want or need to download large amounts of data - but which will avoid impacting other, ordinary customers"

Well that sounds interesting, lets hope there's something that doesnt cost the earth though.

Don't hold your breath, we had access to the mailbox that ntl set up for so called "power users" to mail them on, it got so full because no one in ntl ever even looked at it.....

Hussain & his monkeys/cronies are so full of $h1te, that they wouldn't know good customer service if it jumped up & bit them on the gonads.

dirtydog · 09-03-2005, 19:39

When I say I use 2GB/day, I am including uploads in that. I presume the 30GB does mean upload and download combined? If it just means download, it would be easier to stay within the limit.

Neil · 09-03-2005, 19:40

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

When I say I use 2GB/day, I am including uploads in that. I presume the 30GB does mean upload and download combined? If it just means download, it would be easier to stay within the limit.

Have you actually read the guidelines?

chrisb123 · 09-03-2005, 19:40

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

When I say I use 2GB/day, I am including uploads in that. I presume the 30GB does mean upload and download combined? If it just means download, it would be easier to stay within the limit.

Download only I think.

dirtydog · 09-03-2005, 19:45

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Originally Posted by Neil

Have you actually read the guidelines?

Is the answer to my question contained therein? Or you could just tell me..