TiVo

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by mersey70

There is nothing in the guides to suggest it has though, if it was dynamic why would you need to manually extend live events isn't that what a dynamic EPG is for?

There seems to be someone who is in the know on DS who says it hasn't but if i'm honest I find that hard to believe.

It sounds odd, why would they go to the trouble of using TiVo (that have dynamic EPGs) and use TMS (that provide dynamic EPG data) for the data feed if it wasn't dynamic?

[mersey70]

Originally Posted by clinteastman

It sounds odd, why would they go to the trouble of using TiVo (that have dynamic EPGs) and use TMS (that provide dynamic EPG data) for the data feed if it wasn't dynamic?

Forgive me I dont know what TMS is. Re dynamic EPG The series 1 Tivo dosen't have it though, nor the US one so I am reading, Is that right?

My fire sale Woolies £15 freeview box has it you know!

What is TMS?

Originally Posted by mersey70

There is nothing in the guides to suggest it has though, if it was dynamic why would you need to manually extend live events isn't that what a dynamic EPG is for?

There seems to be someone who is in the know on DS who says it hasn't but if i'm honest I find that hard to believe.

Hi Mersey70,this article seems to suggest it does have a dynamic EPG.

http://wotsat.techradar.com/news/vir...under-01-12-10

Thought i would post before i go out so you could have a browse.

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by mersey70

What is TMS?

Tribune Media Services

http://www.tribunemediaservices.com/

[mersey70]

Originally Posted by richard1960

Hi Mersey70,this article seems to suggest it does a dynamic EPG.

http://wotsat.techradar.com/news/vir...under-01-12-10

Thought i would post before i go out so you could have a browse.

Cheers, it does mention a dynamic EPG but it isn't a user review though so it isn't that clear.

I just find it odd it has a option to manually add time onto live events, why would you even have to? I would have expected it to be like (dare I say it on here) a Sky+ box that automatically does it.

Surely it has it?

[sminkypinky]

Im just wondering if we are getting dynamic EPG mixed up with overlap protection. Dynamic epg (to me anyway means) an EPG that is updated if there is a schedule change, which is mentioned toward the end of the userguide where it states the TiVo connects every few hours to update. Overlap protection is used when all tuners are busy recording and another lower priority programme is due to be recorded. It ensures by clipping the recording times that no recordings are missed. When all tuners are being used on a Sky+ box it doesn't matter how dynamic the EPG is, you will find the following recording will be cancelled, it happened all the time when I had Sky. I do agree though that the live recording buffer implies that the EPG is not going to be as dynamic as people here are wanting though.

[okun69]

Surely though, even a dynamic EPG might not update fast enough if for example a football game goes into extra time like the 10 min stoppage on the man Utd game the other day. Or the sudden death finishes on American Football when the game is tied at full time.
I would have thought that this is what the extended live recordings option is for

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by sminkypinky

Im just wondering if we are getting dynamic EPG mixed up with overlap protection. Dynamic epg (to me anyway means) an EPG that is updated if there is a schedule change, which is mentioned toward the end of the userguide where it states the TiVo connects every few hours to update. Overlap protection is used when all tuners are busy recording and another lower priority programme is due to be recorded. It ensures by clipping the recording times that no recordings are missed. When all tuners are being used on a Sky+ box it doesn't matter how dynamic the EPG is, you will find the following recording will be cancelled, it happened all the time when I had Sky. I do agree though that the live recording buffer implies that the EPG is not going to be as dynamic as people here are wanting though.

Originally Posted by okun69

Surely though, even a dynamic EPG might not update fast enough if for example a football game goes into extra time like the 10 min stoppage on the man Utd game the other day. Or the sudden death finishes on American Football when the game is tied at full time.
I would have thought that this is what the extended live recordings option is for

I for one think your both spot on. Also as you point out it does say "TiVo connects every few hours to update".

[sminkypinky]

Originally Posted by okun69

Surely though, even a dynamic EPG might not update fast enough if for example a football game goes into extra time like the 10 min stoppage on the man Utd game the other day. Or the sudden death finishes on American Football when the game is tied at full time.
I would have thought that this is what the extended live recordings option is for

The Sky+ box does cater for this. If a programme is due to finish at 11.30 but overruns by 5 minutes, the EPG will reflect this, although if I remember correctly it never worked on all channels, only those that supplied the info.

Equally it doesn't say anywhere that TiVo is unable to do this.

[mersey70]

Originally Posted by sminkypinky

The Sky+ box does cater for this. If a programme is due to finish at 11.30 but overruns by 5 minutes, the EPG will reflect this, although if I remember correctly it never worked on all channels, only those that supplied the info.

ESPN definitely needs this feature, the EPG info is appalling yet on freeview it's always seems upto date

[Stuart]

I thought Sky used the PDC (Programme Delivery Control) info that's embedded by certain channels into the broadcast? If so, in my experience, support was good on the BBC channels, good most of the time on Channel 4, variable on ITV (they sometimes transmitted signals at the correct time, sometimes not) and non existent on the other channels.

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by sminkypinky

The Sky+ box does cater for this. If a programme is due to finish at 11.30 but overruns by 5 minutes, the EPG will reflect this, although if I remember correctly it never worked on all channels, only those that supplied the info.

Would that have been on Sky owned channels?

[mersey70]

Originally Posted by Stuart

I thought Sky used the PDC (Programme Delivery Control) info that's embedded by certain channels into the broadcast? If so, in my experience, support was good on the BBC channels, good most of the time on Channel 4, variable on ITV (they sometimes transmitted signals at the correct time, sometimes not) and non existent on the other channels.

Sky Sports channels most certainly have the feature, in fact from what I have read it is a pretty comprehensive service these days.

[muppetman11]

I'm near sure the Sky+HD box had an option somewhere in the settings to extend recordings however I could be wrong.

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I'm near sure the Sky+HD box had an option somewhere in the settings to extend recordings however I could be wrong.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/sky-h...rogrammes.html