ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

[jtwn]

Thats not that good.



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[Hans Gruber]

Originally Posted by Ignition

Find me any industry where they write the not so good stuff in as large a type face as the headline sale points.

They can hardly complain if people aren't fully aware of the facts then. They must factor in that whining costs them less than fully stating the service they really offer. Infact in NTL's case, not having sifted through the T&Cs, I can't see any mention of "speeds upto" on their webpage.

[etccarmageddon]

cheers Bill and Ignition for your explanations.

Originally Posted by Ignition

Find me any industry where they write the not so good stuff in as large a type face as the headline sale points.

ADSL2+ http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/sp...272e9d7e79bc28

Broadband Speed Test Results

Results from broadband speed test recorded on Thursday, 29 September 2005, 10:11.

Your Connection

Direction

Actual Speed

True Speed (estimated)

Downstream 22598 Kbps (2,824.8 KB/sec) 24405 Kbps (inc. overheads) Upstream 1054 Kbps (131.8 KB/sec) 1138 Kbps (inc. overheads)

I love my office network.

[slowcoach]

Something which has not been discussed or clarified is ntl's mention of the speed boost button (SBB) in their 10Mb upgrade plan.

This would appear to indicate, to me at least, that the future normal speed will be somewhat less than 10Mb until the SBB is clicked. Presumably, clicking the SBB will only boost the speed for a set amount of time otherwise everyone would run at full speed all the time, additionally, I would expect that you will not be able to boost the speed again until the current operation has finished, or a set time has elapsed, otherwise it defeats the object of the SBB which is obviously designed to conserve bandwidth/allow more connections on the pipe.

Another thought is that the SBB would only be available to you until such time that you have used up your cap whereupon the SBB would be totally disabled, this would confirm the previously mentioned statement by ntl of dropping users to a lower speed when their bandwidth is exceeded.

If the above assumptions are correct what is the base speed going to be set at, even setting it at 512kb would still allow ntl to advertise the service as †œup to 10Mb/sâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’‚ÂÂÂ�.

[handyman]

2,824.8 KB/sec

/dribble

[Myron]

Hmmm... If I recall correctly, even this humble NTL120 Ambit cable modem is actually capable of 34Mbps.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Chris T

Broadband Speed Test Results

Results from broadband speed test recorded on Thursday, 29 September 2005, 10:11.

I love my office network.

I'll see your 22598 Kbps and raise you 72701 kbits/sec.

Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:36:46 UTC
1st 128K took 78 ms = 1680410 Bytes/sec = approx 13981 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 31 ms = 4228129 Bytes/sec = approx 35178 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 31 ms = 4228129 Bytes/sec = approx 35178 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 79 ms = 1659139 Bytes/sec = approx 13804 kbits/sec
Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:37:40 UTC
1st 128K took 62 ms = 2114065 Bytes/sec = approx 17589 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 32 ms = 4096000 Bytes/sec = approx 34079 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 15 ms = 8738133 Bytes/sec = approx 72701 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 78 ms = 1680410 Bytes/sec = approx 13981 kbits/sec

[etccarmageddon]

Originally Posted by Myron

Hmmm... If I recall correctly, even this humble NTL120 Ambit cable modem is actually capable of 34Mbps.

I think what they're saying is even if our cable modems are capable of it, if we all get put on to a high speed like 24meg or 34meg then either the contention will be so crap you'll never likely get top speed or it'd mean massive changes/investments in the UBRs.

[Robc66]

Does any1 know a date for when NTl will start rolling out the upgrades?

[sherer]

Originally Posted by Myron

Hmmm... If I recall correctly, even this humble NTL120 Ambit cable modem is actually capable of 34Mbps.

not sure if the samsung STBs are though

[jrhnewark]

Originally Posted by sherer

not sure if the samsung STBs are though

Possibly not.

But, still, Ambit 120s are capable of 34Mbps - but the current system can't cope with that. It's a problem at UBR end, not user end.

[Ignition]

BTW for higher speeds don't use Robin Walker's test the sample sizes are just too small and it's not a good indicator of bandwidth

ADSLGuide results should not be compared to Robin's.

P.S. I'll take that 77Mbps and raise you

Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:22:35 GMT
1st 128K took 30 ms = 4369067 Bytes/sec = approx 36351 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 40 ms = 3276800 Bytes/sec = approx 27263 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 40 ms = 3276800 Bytes/sec = approx 27263 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 10 ms = 13107200 Bytes/sec = approx 109052 kbits/sec

The joys of a tier 1 ISP and the some of the core network in the same building which you are hooked straight into barring a firewall and a switch
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Originally Posted by jrhnewark

Possibly not.

But, still, Ambit 120s are capable of 34Mbps - but the current system can't cope with that. It's a problem at UBR end, not user end.

No they aren't, you won't sustain 34Mbps through an Ambit 120. They'll get flakey considerably before then.
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Originally Posted by sherer

not sure if the samsung STBs are though

More than capable for this speed increase.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Ignition

BTW for higher speeds don't use Robin Walker's test the sample sizes are just too small and it's not a good indicator of bandwidth

ADSLGuide results should not be compared to Robin's.

P.S. I'll take that 77Mbps and raise you

The corporate firewall prevents the ADSL guide one running as it is not on port 80.

[Ignition]

I win anyway, any attempt to raise me further just results in me taking laptop to the core switch itself + hooking it straight into the gig without the 100 base switch in between