Should Corporal Punishment Be Brought Back ? - Page 7

Green Hornet · 21-02-2004, 23:01

Basically at the end of the day and by the same token it's technically a swings and roundabouts catch-22 situation.

Jerrek · 21-02-2004, 23:28

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Originally Posted by stuartbe

But should it be used by Teachers or by the parents ?

In the school I was at the headmaster had to speak to the parents first !

Both. My school allowed it (and still does), and if they did spank you they wrote to your parents a letter explaining the situation.

It only did me good. Nothing bad came from it. It teaches a lot of discipline in a short time. Kids these days are undisciplined and vicious. Apply some strong, military-style discipline with corporal punishment and things would change.

Bifta · 21-02-2004, 23:28

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

Both. My school allowed it (and still does), and if they did spank you they wrote to your parents a letter explaining the situation.

It only did me good. Nothing bad came from it. It teaches a lot of discipline in a short time. Kids these days are undisciplined and vicious. Apply some strong, military-style discipline with corporal punishment and things would change.

Heaven forbid .. our children might end up like you.

Stuartbe · 21-02-2004, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Bifta

Heaven forbid .. our children might end up like you.

Everyone is entitled to there point of view...... Dont forget that !

Everyone has a valid point...

The fact remains that kids ARE getting worse... Something has to be done !

Jerrek · 21-02-2004, 23:32

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Originally Posted by Julian

When I was at school, the cane was still in use. It wasn't the thought of the cane that acted as a deterrent - it was what would happen when my parents found out.

Same here. My dad once told my teacher at a teacher-parent meeting that if I give trouble (and believe you me, I did!), hit him harder. Lol.

I was never abused. All punishment I got was just deserved, and I learnt from it. Besides, there is something to be said for going to the washroom and comparing the "stripes" you got with the other guys.

Bifta · 21-02-2004, 23:33

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Originally Posted by stuartbe

The fact remains that kids ARE getting worse... Something has to be done !

Mine aren't, my other relations kids aren't, none of my friends that don't hit their children have a problem, sounds like a load of media waffle to me.

Jerrek · 21-02-2004, 23:34

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Originally Posted by pem

Well that may be your opinion, but it is not shared by me. As far as I am concerned inflicting pain is a form of punishment, just like many others I use - and has been sucessfully used by millions of parents for thousands of years.

I completely agree with you pem. It is a highly successful form of punishment, because the child knew he is being punished for something he did wrong.

Stuartbe · 21-02-2004, 23:36

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Originally Posted by Bifta

Mine aren't, my other relations kids aren't, none of my friends that don't hit their children have a problem, sounds like a load of media waffle to me.

Everyone has a valid point... - I think its down to each parent how they bring up there kids......

I respect your views and I am glad that your children are well behaved. Its a pitty that other parents dont case as much as you do..... The world would be a better place IMO..

Bifta · 21-02-2004, 23:38

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Originally Posted by stuartbe

Everyone has a valid point... - I think its down to each parent how they bring up there kids......

I respect your views and I am glad that your children are well behaved. Its a pitty that other parents dont case as much as you do..... The world would be a better place IMO..

Perhaps the other parent's, who's kids are out on the rampage, are not nurturing enough or are not attentive enough to their childs needs.

**Maggy** · 21-02-2004, 23:39

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Originally Posted by Bifta

Mine aren't, my other relations kids aren't, none of my friends that don't hit their children have a problem, sounds like a load of media waffle to me.

Well that's ok then.Bifta's kids and his friends kids are not disruptive so the experiences the rest of us are going through are.....What?Not true.A lie?Poor perception?

Agreed the percentage of children that are disruptive are a very small part of the school population BUT as I have already said it only takes ONE child to totally disrupt a lesson.If you have two or three then the education of a class suffers proportionally.

Incog.

Jerrek · 21-02-2004, 23:42

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

The day the cane was banned in school was the day discipline went out of the window.The amount of times the cane was actually used in the schools I attended was minute but discipline was good.

Now you can't even push a disruptive student out of a classroom without them threatening to get their particular adult up the school.The brightest and best student's education is being held hostage by these lazy and uncooperative louts.

If corporal punishment is not to be used then I think it is the parents who must face discipline if their children WON'T behave in class.A fine or two might work.Just like the ones when a parent doesn't stop their child truanting and are taken to court.

Incog.

Excellent post.

Jerrek · 21-02-2004, 23:43

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Originally Posted by Flubflow

Just think how much better it would be if they learned good from good instead.

No one ever learns good from good. It never works.

Bifta · 21-02-2004, 23:48

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

Well that's ok then.Bifta's kids and his friends kids are not disruptive so the experiences the rest of us are going through are.....What?Not true.A lie?Poor perception?

I'm citing examples of how children that don't have to endure domineering teachers slapping them about will still manage to grow up to be well adjusted human beings, indicating that the problem might NOT be with the parents or teachers not inflicting physical pain but actually with a low standard of parenting.

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Agreed the percentage of children that are disruptive are a very small part of the school population BUT as I have already said it only takes ONE child to totally disrupt a lesson.If you have two or three then the education of a class suffers proportionally.

Does your school not have remedial classes set up to take these students away from the less disruptive members of the class? I know ours did.

Stuartbe · 21-02-2004, 23:50

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Originally Posted by Bifta

Does your school not have remedial classes set up to take these students away from the less disruptive members of the class? I know ours did.

Thats a nice idea but I doubt the budget will cover it. My mother in law is a primary school teacher and she often sits at home struggling with her budget !

21-02-2004, 23:53

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

Both. My school allowed it (and still does), and if they did spank you they wrote to your parents a letter explaining the situation.

It only did me good. Nothing bad came from it. It teaches a lot of discipline in a short time. Kids these days are undisciplined and vicious. Apply some strong, military-style discipline with corporal punishment and things would change.

I might have to agree with you Jerrek

my dad used to use a thin electric lead to beat me.

I also went to a 'boarding school' where the use of the cane was allowed - however it was not about pain - my dad wanted to hurt me - at school it was more like a ritual - I learnt more at school