[Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When? - Page 7

Neil · 28-03-2006, 18:16

Whoa....

Slow down people....

I was replying to a question posted asking who the poster before was referring to: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...2&postcount=85

This discussion is about ntl not Sky, so I was merely answering the question.

It's got nothing to with me & ntl at all gooner4life.

28-03-2006, 18:32

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Originally Posted by Neil

Whoa....

Slow down people....

I was replying to a question posted asking who the poster before was referring to: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...2&postcount=85

This discussion is about ntl not Sky, so I was merely answering the question.

It's got nothing to with me & ntl at all gooner4life.

I stand corrected

Chrysalis · 28-03-2006, 19:21

I think the difference is when we all know NTL have a long list of faults with their service, we all know some areas have ongoing faults.

Sky generally have little faults and have a record of fixing faults fast when reports.

I wouldnt mind paying for the latter but certianly would for the first.

Derek · 28-03-2006, 19:24

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Sky generally have little faults and have a record of fixing faults fast when reports.

Obviously you don't have an Amstrad Sky+ box

That said mine has been fine but my Ntl pace box was also fine for about 4 years.

Chrysalis · 28-03-2006, 19:44

I am not talking hardware faults I mean service faults.

jtwn · 28-03-2006, 20:07

Yes its just because like satellites don't tend to fall to earth.

Shaun · 28-03-2006, 20:30

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Originally Posted by dezzo

Obviously you don't have an Amstrad Sky+ box

Got mine swapped for a Pace and it;s rock solid, bit like I had my Ntl box swapped for a Samsung and it was great - well for a while.

Horses for courses!

Bob · 28-03-2006, 22:59

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Originally Posted by Neil

ntl.

Thats already been established.

My post was a statement not a question. I was pointing out that he will be waiting for Sky's HD service because NTL will be charging to make a call to them ala Sky. Hence why I stopped quoting at Sky HD

Horizon · 28-03-2006, 23:40

...I understood at least and it was in reply to my comment.

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Originally Posted by gooner4life

As do Sky, your little crusade against NTL is laughable neil.

As for Neptune, what is contradictory? it's a great plan by NTL imo.

You rent the STB yes but it's included in the package price, you will just pay a 1 off fee for Administration and due to the higher cost of the STB.

Still don't understand what you mean when you say a "administration fee". What's being administered?

I think you may be mixing two things into each other. The up-front cost (or not) for the stb and the monthly rental cost to use the pvr features of the stb like Sky does with Sky+. Or, like Sky, if you subscribe to certain tv packages, the pvr functions are thrown in for free. We're most likely agreeing but using different language. If you can explain what the administration fee is about, I might be able to understand what you're saying.

Bob · 28-03-2006, 23:44

The old argument by NTL is that your monthly subscription pays for the channels but also the the STB rental and anysubsequent repairs that maybe require.

In the above case, you will own the STB but the current subscription rates will cover the repairs as well as the channels available.

I think this is what gooner4life means

Horizon · 28-03-2006, 23:50

That's clear, just not "quite" what he said..

He's talking about a one-off admin fee. I like to know what he means by that.

Chrysalis · 29-03-2006, 17:12

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Originally Posted by jtwn

Yes its just because like satellites don't tend to fall to earth.

Have you had a bad service with sky or just slagging them off?

Derek · 29-03-2006, 17:21

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Have you had a bad service with sky or just slagging them off?

What do Sky really have to do?

They hire uplink services, hire transponder space and thats it. They don't have to worry about local problems and network issues. They have to support 1 service, via 1 delivery medium.

They do have some fairly significant issues with customer hardware but obviously that doesn't seem to be important to some people

Rillington · 29-03-2006, 17:34

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Originally Posted by gooner4life

NTL are apparantly going for a 1 off fee for the STB (which you will still rent) but no extra subscription fee.

That would be ideal but I think the Telewest charging structure is more likely.

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Originally Posted by quadplay

How do you know? Are you privy to this information? If so, please share it with the rest of us!

And who did you ask in ntl about analogue switchoff?

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No, the broadcasters specify when the 'red dot' appears. So it's not ntl's problem.

This PRESS RED problem only started when the new software was rolled out last last year. With Freeview and Sky you can turn the PRESS RED off but on ntl you cannot. The Radio Times said at the start of this year that ntl was looking at a way to correct this problem, as people find this PRESS RED intrusion to be unacceptable. Sky seems to have found a way to remove it and Freeview also has as on my Freeveiw box PRESS RED never appears, but more than six months after the new ntl software appeared, which is then the problem, began, the problem remains the same and BBC TV is unwatchable on ntl. Thank goodness I have my Freeview box but Freeview doesn't carry BBC Parliament and I like watching the reruns of general Election results programmes and other archive stuff, which I am now no longer able to do due to the PRESS RED problem which ntl seems not to be fixing.

As for the ending of analogue on ntl, nothing has been said in public about switching off analogue TV and more than a quarter of ntl TV subscribers still have analogue. Only Telewest ahs amde a public commitment to ending analogue and I would imagine that it will sue the freed space for high definition services and I would guess that the reaosn ntl ahs not mentioned HDTV is becuase it ahsn;t the room due to analogue services till being taken by 25% of its TV customers.

1701-e · 30-03-2006, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Rillington

With Freeview and Sky you can turn the PRESS RED off but on ntl you cannot.

I have my Freeview box but Freeview doesn't carry BBC Parliament and I like watching the reruns of general Election results programmes and other archive stuff, which I am now no longer able to do due to the PRESS RED problem which ntl seems not to be fixing.

Press Red on my Freeview appears all the time. AFAIK you can disable it on certain STBs.
On my NTL it appears around the start of each BBC programme and disappears after 20 secs or so.

BBC Parliament is on Freeview Channel 81 but quarter screen though, so a small red box on the top right hand corner isn't quite so bad by comparison