2mb service

[Animal]

Originally Posted by Jerrek

Indeed. Japan has Jx lines by the way. BBKing also messaged me with a few points how EuroDOCSIS differs from DOCSIS. Most important is the 8 vs 6 MHz bandwidth.

and JApan has J-Docsis. Docsis type down stream, EuroDocsis Up Stream.

Originally Posted by Neil

There's really no point in this poll/thread Stuart (sorry), as ntl have no plans to launch a 2 meg service-Aizad Hussain (MD of ntl:home) has told me personally that he has no interest in a 2 meg service & the kind of 'bandwith hoggers' he thinks it would bring.

How unbelievably arrogant of Mr Hussain. 'We don't want to introduce a 2mb service in case we attract customers who actually want to use it.'

Somebody sack him and replace him with an MD who understands what broadband internet is for!

[tizer2000uk]

Its a sad state of affairs if NTL decide not to provide a 2mb+ service in the near future as BT and its affiliates will steal the march yet again on speed for good.

This coupled with the fact that NTL are not willing to provide the other half of 6 back to back terrace houses for whatever reason, thats right the house behind my girlfriends has broadband and she cant have it because the wont go the fifteen metres through a car park and along a footpath! My 5 years of business with NTL is shortly coming to an end.

Ah well!

Originally Posted by tizer2000uk

Its a sad state of affairs if NTL decide not to provide a 2mb+ service in the near future as BT and its affiliates will steal the march yet again on speed for good.

This coupled with the fact that NTL are not willing to provide the other half of 6 back to back terrace houses for whatever reason, thats right the house behind my girlfriends has broadband and she cant have it because the wont go the fifteen metres through a car park and along a footpath! My 5 years of business with NTL is shortly coming to an end.

Ah well!

The short-sightedness of all this is NTL think they don't have any competition. The distance-from-exchange problems you get with ADSL are even worse at 1mb than they are at 512k, so I don't imagine we'll be seeing any significant offering of 2mb ADSL for some time to come. And of course, Telewest covers a different area to NTL, so their 2mb service isn't a threat.

What NTL really don't seem to have factored in is that other technologies offering super-high-speed broadband via powerlines or wirelessly are proving themselves in tests, and seem to be able to offer customers an entry-level service that makes NTL 'broadband' seem positively pedestrian. If they don't move to establish themselves in the market sooner rather than later, they are going to start losing custom hand over fist. And they think they've got cashflow problems now ...

[etccarmageddon]

Originally Posted by towny

How unbelievably arrogant of Mr Hussain. 'We don't want to introduce a 2mb service in case we attract customers who actually want to use it.'

Somebody sack him and replace him with an MD who understands what broadband internet is for!

too right baby!

but I suspect he is pitching NTL at the mass general market - the kind of broadband mcdonalds would dish out.

[DrAwesome]

BT has extended the distance limit from the exchange to 6km instead of 5.5km so even more people are able to get adsl and although BT only offer 512k atm they are trialing a 1meg service which customers are allowed to join, adsl ISP's such as Bulldog etc already offer a 2meg+ service at a very competitive/good price if adsl problems were major at 2/1meg there would be alot of customers complaining and leaving the adsl isp's (in droves) that offer the 1meg+ service..

The cheapest adsl 2meg (always, not just at peak times and weekends) service i have come across is around £42 a month (£7.01 more than what NTL charge for their 1meg service) and i have heard its going to get cheaper.

[Chrysalis]

if you want to compare to BT ipstream then sure

BT a while ago drastically dropped the 20:1 prices so plusnet have started selling them to home customers, also nildram are doing this as well I think, these 1mbit and 2mbit services are available to every ADSL enabled exchange not just central london.

I am balancing the argument here.

so the facts are blueyonder offer 2mbit and seem to have it working fine
isp's selling BT adsl offer 2mbit again are managing fine
ntl is now lagging behind on 1mbit AND has a cap on the service, seriously lagging behind.

[Chrysalis]

Mr Hussain needs to go, it wouldnt surprise me if he is single handedly to blame for all the problems of lack of progress (no 2mbit and some areas not been upgraded to digital)

[DrAwesome]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Mr Hussain needs to go, it wouldnt surprise me if he is single handedly to blame for all the problems of lack of progress (no 2mbit and some areas not been upgraded to digital)

NTL's Marketing Department they have alot to answer for as its NTL's Marketing Department that is supose to keep NTL's prices competitive/keep NTL a competitive player amongst the broadband isp's, NTL have 1,332,000 users/Subscribers where is all the money going each month?