Sacked by Ntl.

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by {FU}Fubar

Given his reputation i think he was the one who reported it, seems like typicle behavour from an NTL manager TBH

I can understand the reaction and comments, and yes I agree with many of them inregard to the .com site. But it's a little harsh to paint ALL NTL managers with that brush Fubar.

We have had unfortunate dealings with a few, and because of that bad taste, we seem to have tainted everyone in NTL. That's a little unfair.

[{FU}Fubar]

Originally Posted by Nemesis

I can understand the reaction and comments, and yes I agree with many of them inregard to the .com site. But it's a little harsh to paint ALL NTL managers with that brush Fubar.

We have had unfortunate dealings with a few, and because of that bad taste, we seem to have tainted everyone in NTL. That's a little unfair.

Bad Managers out number the good ones , but your right it was a little harsh , i retract the last statement but , most are total arse's


edit: heh any chance of getting my post count moved from .com to hear cheeky i know but i thought id ask

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Mark W

eh? you wha'?

Its Three Letter Abbreviation wouldn't be Personal Video Recorder would it?!

[Mark W]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Its Three Letter Abbreviation wouldn't be Personal Video Recorder would it?!

nope.....

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Nemesis

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NTLREBEL, this does not detract from the terrible way that you have been treated, and for the record I can't see why they sacked you, warning maybe.

Indeed. Tribunal material this stuff. Did NTL handle this perfectly by the book. Pay a visit to your local CAB, or if you can afford it find an employment lawyer for an hours advice.

We did the latter when my wife was being treated unfairly, it scares the crap out of the employeer, find the most senior peroson in the firm who supports you and use them as your representative in meetings and fight them for details etc.

Did you get appropriate time to prepare for your hearing. Did you get appropriate time to consider and prepare your responses. Did they supply the questions they wanted answered prior to the hearing. I can go on.

[NtlRebelReborn]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Indeed. Tribunal material this stuff. Did NTL handle this perfectly by the book. Pay a visit to your local CAB, or if you can afford it find an employment lawyer for an hours advice.

We did the latter when my wife was being treated unfairly, it scares the crap out of the employeer, find the most senior peroson in the firm who supports you and use them as your representative in meetings and fight them for details etc.

Did you get appropriate time to prepare for your hearing. Did you get appropriate time to consider and prepare your responses. Did they supply the questions they wanted answered prior to the hearing. I can go on.

Thanks SMHarman. I have an appointment on Monday with an employment lawyer to discuss all these points. Unfortunately to find a senior person to support me, kind of puts their job on the line, but I see your point.

Will keep you all posted. Thanks once again.

[Russ]

A tip for you NTLrebelreborn - it's been put to me that GW will do everything in her power (which is absolutely nothing actually) to try and prevent you having a union rep or other legal representation in these kinds of matters.

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by Russ D

A tip for you NTLrebelreborn - it's been put to me that GW will do everything in her power (which is absolutely nothing actually) to try and prevent you having a union rep or other legal representation in these kinds of matters.

and it will be vitally important that you do have someone else there with you.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by NtlRebelReborn

Thanks SMHarman. I have an appointment on Monday with an employment lawyer to discuss all these points. Unfortunately to find a senior person to support me, kind of puts their job on the line, but I see your point.

Will keep you all posted. Thanks once again.

For NTL to do that would be as bad as the steamroller fasttrack disciplinary process they have already done.

Does NTLs internal procedure not require a very senior person to attend a summary dismissal hearing? Most firms do to protect themselves from subsequent litigation and the resultant publicity. For this reason a final written warning is often the most appropriate course of action.

One question you need to ask yourself is what restitution you want if you succeeed. Would you want you job back? You don't have to answer that to me or this forum, but need to know in your head the answer to that question.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Russ D

A tip for you NTLrebelreborn - it's been put to me that GW will do everything in her power (which is absolutely nothing actually) to try and prevent you having a union rep or other legal representation in these kinds of matters.

External legal rep is often very difficult to take.

One tip we were given is to take an employment specialist - they are not a lawyer, but know the law back to front. Do you have any friends / partner who know anyone in HR that could take such a role.

Originally Posted by Nemesis

Gogogo,

I apologise for using that term with you, I too was suprised I wasn't knuckle rapped. But as I said I'm sorry, it won't happen agiain.

Nice of you, actually, you used it on someone else, not me, I used it against you and I was pounced on by a mod, so I'll apologize for that. I never use abusive language on here nor in everyday life, I think it shows a weakness of character. Though I wouldn't have thought the phrase "grow up" was at all offensive.

My concern is there should be some balance, I for one cannot accept the use of vulgar and abusive language, even though Neil might feel justified in abusing someone, as a mod he should set an example, so his knuckles should be rapped.

Even a teacher of English can have a bad day.

[Mark W]

Originally Posted by Gogogo

so his knuckles should be wrapped.

*has a mental image of Knuckles carefully wrapped in festive paper, topped with a litle bow......


(looks at his coffee cup )

Originally Posted by Mark W

*has a mental image of Knuckles carefully wrapped in festive paper, topped with a litle bow......


(looks at his coffee cup )

Wish I had the nerve to post stuff like that ... but when I pick up other folks' spelling mine usually goes to pot all at the same thyme

[etccarmageddon]

Originally Posted by Nor

Pretty amazed at that outburst. If that was anyone else shouting that stuff they'd get it censored, seems like you are above the law though. I didn't really understand that so many people had moderator powers of the nthellworld.com website. You need moderator powers in vbullutin forums to see IP addresses, thats why I said moderators. Admittedly I don't know how many people have indescriminate power over the nthellworld.com website anymore without being accountable but its hardly an excuse to give me abuse.

as much as I like Neil, I did think his response was a bit over the top. In your suggestion you did say "I think" which is as much as saying "in my opinion" and in fairness it'd be a fair assumption/opinion that this information could have been obtained via the moderators.

anyway, we now know that there is someone who has access rights called ASHG and this man has already proved this week that he can not be trusted.

[zoombini]

Hmm, if I was accused of possibly being responsible for someone being sacked then I think I'd be a bit pi$$ed off and swear a bit too.

Why dont y'all give over changing the topic of the thread & discussing Neils annoyance at being one of the accused of the deed & keep it about the sacking problem. Being a mod does not mean that you have to give up all rights to being an ordinary person.