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Old 05-08-2024, 15:26   #91
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Well they're comparing it a lot to the Palestine marches as if those marches had people smashing up stores, getting fire to buildings and beating people up.
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Sky news talking about the white riots as a group of muslims casually walk past with machetes, knives and metal bars.
You forgot to include the videos of Muslims giving tea and biscuits to Police officers all day.
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Old 05-08-2024, 15:44   #93
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You forgot to include the videos of Muslims giving tea and biscuits to Police officers all day.
No I didn’t, sorry does the tea and biscuits protect you from a machete?

I’ll have to give that a try.

Are all white people far right thugs? No of course not, neither are all Muslims.

It was more of a point about the media, there is a sky reporter talking about “far right” rioters as another group of far right thugs walk past brandishing weapons…..no giving an actual.

And she says nothing.

It’s akin to the mostly peaceful BLM riots reported in the US to the back drop of burning vehicles and buildings
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The term "two-tier policing" is gaining traction on (social) media seemingly to try and convince the wider population that the nice white gentlemen we see on our news reports are being hard done by and other, equally culpable, miscreants of an alternate ethnic persuasion are getting away with it.

An interesting article on this myth: How myth of two-tier policing helped spread trouble in Southport

So many rabbit holes, so little time ...
An interesting spin on the reality that 1400 to 2000 (estimates vary) of underage girls, largely white, were systematically raped over the best part of two decades by Muslim men who the authorities were afraid to pursue because of their ethnicity.

Accusations of two tier policing, unsurprisingly, happen when policing is race-based.

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Every successful conspiracy theory has a kernel of truth. The failure of councils and police forces to join the dots between a series of Asian grooming gangs operating in northern towns in the 1990s and 2000s, for fear of inflaming political tensions, is still corrosive to trust in police among white working-class communities and continues to be exploited by far-right leaders.
An inconvenient truth the establishment - media, politicians and the police - are more than happy to gloss over and feign surprise when people are unhappy about it.

The easiest way, of course, to avoid accusations of two tier policing is not to implement it. Something the article seems oblivious to.

Also entertaining is the lack of self-awareness among those who are calling for two tier policing to be part of the solution.

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It was more of a point about the media, there is a sky reporter talking about “far right” rioters as another group of far right thugs walk past brandishing weapons…..no giving an actual.
The media are focusing on the far-right because they're making up the vast majority of the violence in the last few days.
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Re: Uk Riots and Protests (2024)

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Sky news talking about the white riots as a group of muslims casually walk past with machetes, knives and metal bars.
They didn't mention "white riots" in that video.
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They didn't mention "white riots" in that video.
Oh, Where they talking about that group of Muslims with weapons then?

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Another peaceful gathering, everyone holding a token of love and friendship.

Will Starmer and Cooper decry this, will they vow to protect people from them?

https://x.com/tpointuk/status/1819786776942190896?s=61
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Another peaceful gathering, everyone holding a token of love and friendship.

Will Starmer and Cooper decry this, will they vow to protect people from them?

https://x.com/tpointuk/status/1819786776942190896?s=61
I doubt they're going to give an instant running commentary on every video posted on social media, much as you wish them to do so. And to verify each video's authenticity is not an instant process.
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I doubt they're going to give an instant running commentary on every video posted on social media, much as you wish them to do so. And to verify each video's authenticity is not an instant process.
As we have seen here, posting small video clips without context is a perfect vehicle for misinformation. He'll be talking about the lack of "British Values" next ...
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As we have seen here, posting small video clips without context is a perfect vehicle for misinformation. He'll be talking about the lack of "British Values" next ...
Works both ways
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Oh, Where they talking about that group of Muslims with weapons then?

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Another peaceful gathering, everyone holding a token of love and friendship.

Will Starmer and Cooper decry this, will they vow to protect people from them?

https://x.com/tpointuk/status/1819786776942190896?s=61
Genuine question. Nothing to do with the actual law. If your community, your business, your livelihood, your house, your possessions, your family and your friends were getting hurt, broke, smashed up for no reason whatsoever, would you not snap and take matters in your own hands? These people in the supposed peaceful protests were walking down streets and smashing every car and house they walked past, some I'm guessing with kids in. Maybe, just maybe, the police are just human and are trying to dissolve or discourage them.
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https://x.com/JACKGUYANDERTON/status...I0nZnPpjA&s=19

So intent on peaceful demonstration not one will show their face. Didn't see any police either.
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Just found out that my area is on the list the far-right want to target. Fun.
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Genuine question. Nothing to do with the actual law. If your community, your business, your livelihood, your house, your possessions, your family and your friends were getting hurt, broke, smashed up for no reason whatsoever, would you not snap and take matters in your own hands? These people in the supposed peaceful protests were walking down streets and smashing every car and house they walked past, some I'm guessing with kids in. Maybe, just maybe, the police are just human and are trying to dissolve or discourage them.
Genuine question, if young vulnerable girls had been getting raped, if your community had been decimated within a generation, if wasn’t safe to walk in certain areas or your neighbourhood at night, if you we’re automatically branded racist and far right every time you just wanted a discussion on the number of immigrants flooding into your area. If you were ignored time and again whist the middle and political class looked down on you…..

Would you not snap and take matters into your own hands?

This has been 30 odd years in the making, it’s been there all the time but now certain groups feel emboldened to surface.

There is only one group to blame, the political class and every government from Blair onwards.
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Genuine question, if young vulnerable girls had been getting raped, if your community had been decimated within a generation, if wasn’t safe to walk in certain areas or your neighbourhood at night, if you we’re automatically branded racist and far right every time you just wanted a discussion on the number of immigrants flooding into your area. If you were ignored time and again whist the middle and political class looked down on you…..

Would you not snap and take matters into your own hands?

This has been 30 odd years in the making, it’s been there all the time but now certain groups feel emboldened to surface.

There is only one group to blame, the political class and every government from Blair onwards.
Thanks for ignoring my question.

Everything you have wrote above is not what these riots are about. They aren't protests, it's our dregs of society that are out to cause vandalism and racism. Everything you stated above is happening with white people too. I fear walking the streets, not because of Asians or minorities, but because of criminals that come in all forms of life.

We can have a discussion about immigrants flooding in our country, I've noticed it myself and something does need to be done, but stop trying to kid yourself and others, that these riots is that discussion, it's simply not.
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