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Old 25-03-2022, 11:42   #91
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Re: P&O Ferries make 800 British Workers Redundant

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Johnson was under pressure on the issue and bought time by saying the government would take action against the company.

The underlying issue here is that UK law is weaker here than some of its European peers which have prevented mass sackings and P&O has exploited this weakness. I'm not sure the finger can be pointed at anyone but the Government with regard to the UK's weaker legislation.
I’m sorry but P&O has well and truly shot that fox.

They broke the law. They knew they were breaking the law. And they’re openly bribing their (ex) employees to try to avoid the consequences. Trying to turn this into a Brexit/EU/Bumbling Boris story is just silly.
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I’m sorry but P&O has well and truly shot that fox.

They broke the law. They knew they were breaking the law. And they’re openly bribing their (ex) employees to try to avoid the consequences. Trying to turn this into a Brexit/EU/Bumbling Boris story is just silly.
Why are you resorting to strawmen, Chris? I've not mentioned Brexit or the EU on this thread as they're not relevant.

This is about the difference in countries' national laws and P&O exploiting the weaker UK laws in an unscrupulous manner.

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Why are you resorting to strawmen, Chris? I've not mentioned Brexit or the EU on this thread as they're not relevant.

This is about the difference in countries' national laws and P&O exploiting the weaker UK laws in an unscrupulous manner.
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Why are you resorting to strawmen, Chris? I've not mentioned Brexit or the EU on this thread as they're not relevant.

This is about the difference in countries' national laws and P&O exploiting the weaker UK laws in an unscrupulous manner.
Can you provide evidence that our laws are weaker please?
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Why are you resorting to strawmen, Chris? I've not mentioned Brexit or the EU on this thread as they're not relevant.

This is about the difference in countries' national laws and P&O exploiting the weaker UK laws in an unscrupulous manner.
No, it’s not, Andrew. We could have had tougher rules in place and they would have broken them too. They are willing to pay heavy fines because it will be worth it in the long run.

It’s a bit like saying that because so many cars are exceeding the 30mph speed limit, we need a 20mph speed limit.
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Lots of firms break environmental rules . . because it's cheaper to pay the fines than fix the issue.
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No, it’s not, Andrew. We could have had tougher rules in place and they would have broken them too. They are willing to pay heavy fines because it will be worth it in the long run.

It’s a bit like saying that because so many cars are exceeding the 30mph speed limit, we need a 20mph speed limit.
What heavy fines are you referring to? They're paying enhanced redundancy to their ex-workforce but I'm not aware of any fines they've incurred.

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Can you provide evidence that our laws are weaker please?
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What heavy fines are you referring to? They're paying enhanced redundancy to their ex-workforce but I'm not aware of any fines they've incurred.

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Yup, same here.
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A P&O Ferries ship is being held in Northern Ireland because it is "unfit to sail", nine days after the company sacked 800 workers without notice. The European Causeway had been held in Larne over "failures on crew familiarisation, vessel documentation and crew training", the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-...20(MCA)%20said.
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A P&O Ferries ship is being held in Northern Ireland because it is "unfit to sail", nine days after the company sacked 800 workers without notice. The European Causeway had been held in Larne over "failures on crew familiarisation, vessel documentation and crew training", the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-...20(MCA)%20said.
Oh dear. That's bound to increase customer confidence eh
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Oh dear. That's bound to increase customer confidence eh
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