Gay couple claim they were ejected from pub for kissing

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by Zing

and how many people are not really "genetically" gay if that really is the case? How many women turn gay because they are abused as children? I know a few fit in that description and how many male gays are there because they found it easier to be whilst going through pubity and are simply just confused. And what about those in gay relationships who are bi sexual? is that meant to be genetic too? or is it just cuz they are rampant and do not care where they get their rocks off??

The figures will be for LGB as bi-sexuals are considered Gay..

I'm not a great believer in laws for a minority purely because they are a minority instead laws should be based on if something is right or wrong.. Discrimination because someone is considered different or does different things than another person is simply wrong.

Originally Posted by Zing

many who are part of a minority like to use prejuduce as an excuse to cause or fuss gain attention or get someone into trouble cuz they can

And some members of the majority like to dismiss claims of prejudice as 'troublemaking' or an attempt to obtain preferential treatment because they are uncomfortable, for whatever reason, in recognizing such prejudice does still exist.

When it comes to such claims. We should be careful on both sides to avoid making such accusations, i.e that the pub owners are homophobes or the claimants are troublemakers. Sometimes both parties are probably correct and the dispute was born of a misunderstanding.

Today the pub had to close it's doors as a result of a protest against it. I am not happy that such protests took place before we established guilt.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Unfortunately, if l was in a pub and l saw it, l would ask them to stop as it was causing embarrasment, if it continued then l would complain to the landlord.

I am the sort of person that live and let live is my motto, but l would ask the couple first before complaining, as that would be the courte way of doing it.

Originally Posted by Damien

And some members of the majority like to dismiss claims of prejudice as 'troublemaking' or an attempt to obtain preferential treatment because they are uncomfortable, for whatever reason, in recognizing such prejudice does still exist.

When it comes to such claims. We should be careful on both sides to avoid making such accusations, i.e that the pub owners are homophobes or the claimants are troublemakers. Sometimes both parties are probably correct and the dispute was born of a misunderstanding.

Today the pub had to close it's doors as a result of a protest against it. I am not happy that such protests took place before we established guilt.

just like you did when this thread started??? you were right in it from the off

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

The figures will be for LGB as bi-sexuals are considered Gay..

I'm not a great believer in laws for a minority purely because they are a minority instead laws should be based on if something is right or wrong.. Discrimination because someone is considered different or does different things than another person is simply wrong.

I do not understand how a bi sexual can be considered gay seems odd to me

The rest I agree with totally

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Unfortunately, if l was in a pub and l saw it, l would ask them to stop as it was causing embarrasment, if it continued then l would complain to the landlord.

I am the sort of person that live and let live is my motto, but l would ask the couple first before complaining, as that would be the courte way of doing it.

You really don't see any irony in typing two contradictory statements in the same post, do you, Arthur?

btw,
a) who would they be causing embarrassment to?
b) would you do the same if you saw a straight couple snogging?

I await your answers with bated breath.

[Hom3r]

The thing is, there is kissing and theres eating the other persons face off.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

Well the people making the claim are saying they were simply having a 'quick kiss'. We will have to see what comes out.

Yes I know that - which is why I stated that the facts aren't yet clear. Peter Tatchell was on the radio earlier making exactly that claim on their behalf.

Originally Posted by Osem

Peter Tatchell was on the radio earlier

In other news ... the sun came up this morning, the Pope has professed his belief in Catholicism and this just in, grizzly bears prefer arboreal cover whilst defecating.

Tatchell. Mind your own business for once. If you have any, that is. It seems that your business is minding everyone else's for them.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Chris

In other news ... the sun came up this morning, the Pope has professed his belief in Catholicism and this just in, grizzly bears prefer arboreal cover whilst defecating.

Tatchell. Mind your own business for once. If you have any, that is. It seems that your business is minding everyone else's for them.

Quite and I don't think his involvement does them any good to be honest. I'm sure many people will think it just makes the whole thing look contrived or at least just another bandwagon jumping opportunity. I find it odd that some people make a great deal of fuss about things they don't agree with but can't accept that others might find what they do unacceptable. I know plenty of dog owners who think their animals are just perfect but they scare the hell out of my lad and these people just can't accept that. We all have to live in this world so perhaps if/when others find what we're doing unacceptable we ought to try looking at things from their point of view before moaning about it and assuming some sort of ingrained prejudice.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Hugh, there is a big difference between a gay couple kissing and a man and woman.

I am a man of the world and have seen everything in my life, but if l was in a pub or in the street for that matter, and l saw a gay couple kissing, that would be embarrasing for myself, as you would not expect it. Men and Women Kissing in the pub or even in the street is natural and happens everday.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Hugh, there is a big difference between a gay couple kissing and a man and woman.

And there's the rub. In the eyes of the law, there is no difference (public order offences aside, but that's another kettle of fish/can of worms).

I am a man of the world and have seen everything in my life, but if l was in a pub or in the street for that matter, and l saw a gay couple kissing, that would be embarrasing for myself, as you would not expect it. Men and Women Kissing in the pub or even in the street is natural and happens everday.

Well, like it or not: Gays have the same kissing rights as heteros these days. You'd better get used to it.

[Pierre]

Of course you'll find most heterosexual men objecting to two gay men kissing, buy would probably happily watch two lesbians - not two fat, Crew cut, boilersuit wearing lesbians mind you, no they would have to be two fit 6" blonde scandanavian lesbians.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Of course you'll find most heterosexual men objecting to two gay men kissing, buy would probably happily watch two lesbians - not two fat, Crew cut, boilersuit wearing lesbians mind you, no they would have to be two fit 6" blonde scandanavian lesbians.

And your point is

[Mr_love_monkey]

Originally Posted by Pierre

no they would have to be two fit 6" blonde scandanavian lesbians.

Yes, those special lesbians in films, that just require a real man to cure them (or so I've heard - I wouldn't know anything about those films)

Originally Posted by Zing

just like you did when this thread started??? you were right in it from the off

No I wasn't. I said "If it is true". I didn't accuse the pub owner of being a homophobe anywhere.