VM finally post news on bridge mode - superhub

[qasdfdsaq]

Because it is not working as a router

By your logic I could call my bike a car, because it gets me to my destination. Or maybe I should start selling switches as "routers" because it is "providing a connection". What yours is actually doing is NOT what people want, but you're incorrectly claiming it is.

You're not letting people it works that way, you're telling people it works a way that it doesn't. It's confusing and misleading to say you are using your own router when you are not. You're making a false and exaggerated statement, but that's no surprise coming from someone working for VM...

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Because it is not working as a router

By your logic I could call my bike a car, because it gets me to my destination. Or maybe I should start selling switches as "routers" because it is "providing a connection". What yours is actually doing is NOT what people want, but you're incorrectly claiming it is.

You're not letting people it works that way, you're telling people it works a way that it doesn't. It's confusing and misleading to say you are using your own router when you are not. You're making a false and exaggerated statement, but that's no surprise coming from someone working for VM...

I have already said even if working as an Access Point but you appear ti be unable to read.

So it is false and exaggerated to say that my Edimax Router ( it does call it that on the box and the case strangely enough ) is providing me with a wireless connection, as it is providing me with a wireless connection very successfully I see no issue.

[Stephen]

Can we please stop the arguing and get back to the thread discussion.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Masque

I have already said even if working as an Access Point but you appear ti be unable to read.

No, you're the one who appears unable to read. All I asked right from the beginning was that it is false to state you are using your own router with no problems when you are not using it as a router.

So it is false and exaggerated to say that my Edimax Router is providing me with a wireless connection, as it is providing me with a wireless connection very successfully I see no issue.

This, is in fact exactly what I was asking you to do before you resorted to bickering and insults - i.e. state that you are using it only for wireless and not as a router.

I'm glad you seem to have understood the concept, even if you haven't realised yet. This is all I have to say on the matter for now but if I see you claiming again you're using a "router with no problems" I'll correct you again.

For now it remains that until we get bridge mode, using your own router with the Superhub (as a router) does not fully work the way it should.

It'll work fine if not used as a router.

Do not ignore requests from Mods - last warning.

The Loving Mallet of Correction™ is on standby mode.

[Chrysalis]

Masque come on hold your hands up and admit you wrong on this.

Is a FACT people cannot get their own wan ip on their own router's now with the superhub.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Masque come on hold your hands up and admit you wrong on this.

Is a FACT people cannot get their own wan ip on their own router's now with the superhub.

I said from the start that you can use your own router and regardless of if it becoming an Access Point it was originally bought as a router and that is the word everyone understands, mention access point and peoples eyes glaze over.

I have connected it to a Lan port on the Superhub and you will be shocked to learn that it has 4 of them and it works fine using any of them, but as someone wants to be pedantic rather than help posters so they have to argue the finer points that the majority of people do not care or even give a hoot about.

All they want is the ability to turn on their laptop or Xbox in any part of the house and get a wireless connection and if they can use their original router then they are happy.

My router has always been on a long ethernet cable to ensure good coverage and it works connected to the Superhub which give me even more range for wireless access.

I could have just bought an access point but the was no need as my original router fitted the bill and saved me any expense.

[zekeisaszekedoes]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

For now it remains that until we get bridge mode, using your own router with the Superhub (as a router) does not fully work the way it should.

It'll work fine if not used as a router.

...we hope.

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Masque come on hold your hands up and admit you wrong on this.

Is a FACT people cannot get their own wan ip on their own router's now with the superhub.

That boils it right down to the fact of the matter. If the router isn't getting the WAN IP, the Super Hub is and no amount of fiddling with settings on either will change that.

Bridge mode, bridge mode, where art thou?

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by Masque

I said from the start that you can use your own router and regardless of if it becoming an Access Point it was originally bought as a router and that is the word everyone understands, mention access point and peoples eyes glaze over.

I have connected it to a Lan port on the Superhub and you will be shocked to learn that it has 4 of them and it works fine using any of them, but as someone wants to be pedantic rather than help posters so they have to argue the finer points that the majority of people do not care or even give a hoot about.

All they want is the ability to turn on their laptop or Xbox in any part of the house and get a wireless connection and if they can use their original router then they are happy.

My router has always been on a long ethernet cable to ensure good coverage and it works connected to the Superhub which give me even more range for wireless access.

I could have just bought an access point but the was no need as my original router fitted the bill and saved me any expense.

This attitude is why isp's should stop supplying custom routers.

A normal router has features to try and cater for everyone, even if only 1% use it.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

This attitude is why isp's should stop supplying custom routers.

A normal router has features to try and cater for everyone, even if only 1% use it.

I am using my original router and the Superhub is also broadcasting so I have 2 connections in my property.

Off course my own router only has a 192 ip because it is connected via a LAN port, but when I had my modem it received a public ip address which is very different from the 192 ip range.

[zekeisaszekedoes]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

A normal router has features to try and cater for everyone, even if only 1% use it.

Aye. That's why I love DD-WRT; I need some of the advanced features, and over time some of the ones I originally ignored have come in useful.

The point is, if the choices are there from the off they don't need to be added later, saving everyone involved a lot of hassle.

[Ignitionnet]

Due to failure of my own standalone modem I'm actually doing something similar on my ADSL. The O2 supplied modem/router is terminating DSL and doing all routing while my own higher power wireless router is acting purely as an access point connecting via LAN port to modem.

And, yes, DHCP is disabled on my router - multiple DHCP servers in a single segment is a bad idea

[adduxi]

Reading all these forums is starting to depress me ....
Why, oh why, can't VM just put there hand up and admit the 'Super'hub(sic) is not fit for purpose for the majority of, how shall I put this, techy users.
Virgin, please just give us a decent cable modem, plain and simple, even if it comes with no Tech Support for the LAN connections to it.
I don't want the 4 port switch or Wireless N or any other bells and whistles.
Come on Virgin, do the right thing.!!

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by adduxi

Come on Virgin, do the right thing.!!

The Bridge mode will turn the SuperHub into a standlone modem, so you will be able to do exactly what you want.

However Virgin won't be going back to the Ambit modems. The Hubs are here to stay

[zekeisaszekedoes]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

The Bridge mode will turn the SuperHub into a standlone modem, so you will be able to do exactly what you want.

Sadly this won't solve the much higher than average power consumption, but I guess you can't have it all.