Boris Johnson wins London mayoral race

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Actually I thought it was Damien whom mentioned them first but your posting with the video link didn't help either.

Nope http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34543910-post28.html

to be fair we are talking about the London elections in which the BNP won a seat, although I guess we could move on.

Damn! How come when you want one there isn't a MOD around.

Originally Posted by Incognitas

And how has this thread got back to the damned BNP again?This is supposed to be about Boris winning the Mayoral election not the Blasted Nitwit Party.

I suggest those that want to discuss it start yet ANOTHER BNP thread.

Originally Posted by trevortt

This is foreverwar fault, he always brings the BNP into my posts. I have had it with this topic, you cannot speak about anything without that fool interfering.

Originally Posted by Damien

Nope http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34543910-post28.html

Mmm, sounds familiar - do something yourself, then blame someone else......

Originally Posted by Damien

Nope http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34543910-post28.html

Sorry some of trevs postings are hidden to me..but thanks for that..I was trying to see which post to report.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Damien

Actually the London seat was given on the basis of a large enough share of the vote, the seats are given out that way. So while they never got a majority in any one area their small minorities were enough.

my apologies for the use of the term majority ,but they got the seat democratically and that my friend is that until the next election [or some unforeseen circumstance]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

my apologies for the use of the term majority ,but they got the seat democratically and that my friend is that until the next election [or some unforeseen circumstance]

Exactly, papa - the joys of democracy.

But when one of our posters (not you) tries to translate 5.3% into "most", alarm bells ring.

Much as i dislike it and don't really want to acknowledge it the BNP is getting more support. Now we can either accept that and then move onto the problem that gains them support or we can adopt the policy some on here suggest label all supporters as brainless ignorant morons and stick our heads back in the sand. Whether it is true or a misconception there is a growing problem with immigration and how it is viewed by people in the UK.

Something does have to be done to try and solve that preventing groups like the BNP getting support. As to the point "are people more or less racist then before", no they are not BUT more people then ever before are concerned about immigration and do have legitimate fears about immigration. I note it is usually those in the professional occupations that keep saying there is no problem but unskilled labourers in this country do have a problem and a lot of them have lost their jobs because some immigrants will work for a lot less money.

You can't keep ignoring things like that because it doesn't suit your argument it is happening and it is hurting a lot of people in the UK at a time when all other bills are increasing. Lets sort the problem and stop the likes of the BNP and any other far right bunch of headcases appearing to offer a solution that would do more damage then good.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Exactly, papa - the joys of democracy.

But when one of our posters (not you) tries to translate 5.3% into "most", alarm bells ring.

TBH, that may not be what he meant.

Why do you think most people are now voting the BNP...because they are sick to the back teeth of the left pc brigade.

Could mean: Of those who vote BNP most do so because they are sick of the left PC brigade.

The London elections using a form of Proportional representation so smaller parties can get seats without ever having to win a area. So 5% is enough to win a seat, however in a general a party needs to get a majority of a consistency and thus it becomes much harder for smaller parties to enter parliament

RK, understand what you are saying, but the amount of additional support they are getting is minimal, but widely reported.

In the recent council elections, they gained 13 seats and lost 3, out of a total of 4000 (approx) seats fought.

This means they increased by 10 out 4000, which is 0.25% - I worry about their policies, but not about the fact they will be taking over the councils soon.

Originally Posted by foreverwar

RK, understand what you are saying, but the amount of additional support they are getting is minimal, but widely reported.

In the recent council elections, they gained 13 seats and lost 3, out of a total of 4000 (approx) seats fought.

This means they increased by 10 out 4000, which is 0.25% - I worry about their policies, but not about the fact they will be taking over the councils soon.

The share of the vote and the amount of seats gained were smaller than the BNP wanted or were expected to gain. If we look at these results, although they had some success, the rise is not as much as feared. The results also show that, despite massive protests against Labour and the dismal performance by UKIP, the BNP have not made the gains they needed to become more of a problem for their detractors.

They are not gaining momentum towards being a signifiant force in politics.

It seems they did well in the last few elections because of dissatisfaction in Labour and no credible opposition to pick up the votes. Hence a lot of protests votes for the BNP. I think now a lot of people think the Conservatives are a credible alternative and are less inclined to make a protest vote for either UKIP or the BNP.

I am willing to beat that we see a lot of those UKIP/BNP votes go Tory in the general election and both parties to actually decrease their share of the popular vote.

As a UKIP supporter my vote won't go the the Tories, because I just don't support the Tories any more than I'd support Labour or the Lib Dems. They fooled me once, but they won't do it again.

I'll stand by my principles.

[Ramrod]

I'm so glad I started this thread......

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Why, why does everyone go off the main subject, and keep talking about the BNP, this is a policital party, like any other party, and each party has a vote, that you can vote for, l am delighted that Boris, got in, to get rid of that arrogant git Red Ken, he

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Why, why does everyone go off the main subject, and keep talking about the BNP, this is a policital party, like any other party, and each party has a vote, that you can vote for, l am delighted that Boris, got in, to get rid of that arrogant git Red Ken, he was only after one thing, and that was making money out of us, and going on stupid trips, to far away countries, to try and bring business to this country, l am NOT a Tory, and never will be, but l firmly believe he will bring the best of London, and hopefully get rid of the stupid and silly things he brought in to city, l have given up on Labour, and now l will vote for Lib Dems.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Damn! How come when you want one there isn't a MOD around.

This thread is regarding the discussion of Boris Johnson winning the London Mayoral election. Any further off-topic discussion will be removed and infraction points dished out.