might give Linux OS 2007 a go - Page 7

c1rcle · 02-03-2007, 12:37

To reply to Zingleb's comment about being talked down to by Linux fanboys. I suppose I could be called a Linux fanboy, but I'm in no way talking down to anyone, in fact I've used Windows since it started so I know more about that than Linux & couldn't talk down to anyone about Linux if I tried.

The Jackal · 02-03-2007, 12:48

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Originally Posted by Gavin

Again, what is the point of a HD if you can't write to it? Firstly, all my work is there, which can't be updated. Secondly its where all my storage space is. I can only download upto the limit of my ext3 petition which is about 20 gig

Well really dual boot - how dare you insult linux

and also if as you say all your primary data is on Windows then - just use windows

For me I used to dual boot years ago and also run into the same problems as you and others and really used the same methods to overcome these issues.

EG creating a massive shared fat32 partition (over the 32gig limit as imposed by windows

) but its not the solution.

Recently instead of dual boot I dual machine. 2 machines - linux, windows both on 24/7. Primary data is on linux with the windows machine being the slave what you see on the desktop of the windows machine are actually files from the linux box via a network share.

Both machines have there own monitor.

Single mouse and keyboard controls both machines via x2vnc or synergy.

Doubles you multitasking potential instantly

c1rcle · 02-03-2007, 13:01

Is the network connection wired or wireless? I'm looking to do something similar with my 2 (soon to be 3) machines.

The Jackal · 02-03-2007, 13:37

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Originally Posted by c1rcle

Is the network connection wired or wireless? I'm looking to do something similar with my 2 (soon to be 3) machines.

Wired

For extra bandwidth try two NICs on each machine with 1 NIC par being a dedicated crossover for VNC/shared desktop.

I tried wireless years ago but it didnt work as great due to me using 11mbs wireless with a true bandwidth of 5mbs.

Basically your vnc / synergy connection should have low latency to ensure fluidity when you're rapidly moving the mouse from one machine to the other.

Xaccers · 02-03-2007, 14:16

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Originally Posted by c1rcle

I agree it does sound like I'm saying that, it just seems to me that these people are getting more & more greedy every day, How many times do they want to be paid for the same thing? I have a film (paid for) I have a DVD drive including player software (licensed & paid for) I choose to use a different OS that doesn't need the licensed software so I'm a criminal? I'm not the one charging twice for a product am I?

Thing is, the license for decrypting DVD's is to pay for the development of that encryption, you're not being charged twice.
Without it, there wouldn't any point in developing it, I mean, would you let your company invest thousands of pounds in a technology that you could make no money from?
It's not the Entertainment companies that get the money when you by WinDVD for instance, but some of the money goes for the payment of the decryption license.
To do it without license is on a par with piracy and theft in that you're getting something without the people who put their hard work into it getting anything for it.
And your wrong, no matter what you do need the licensed software to play it to remain fair and legal.

Suse and Redhat still offer no native encrypted DVD playability from what I can see, so you still have to go through the fun (or pain) of installing libdvdcss etc to get things working.
It depends on your outlook on fairness, should a company be paid back for their development of technology, or is it ok just to rip them off?

Cobbydaler · 02-03-2007, 14:29

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Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r

Well if Microsoft documented the NTFS subsystem then we would have had an NTFS linux driver years ago.

ntfs-3g is now in stable status...

The Jackal · 02-03-2007, 14:38

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

ntfs-3g is now in stable status...

Is it seriously ? and safe ?

punky · 02-03-2007, 14:40

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

ntfs-3g is now in stable status...

Cheers for that.... Bit of a leap of faith though as its so new

The Jackal · 02-03-2007, 14:41

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Originally Posted by Gavin

Cheers for that.... Bit of a leap of faith though as its so new

Nah ntfs-3g has been around for a while but to announce 1.0 stable is something.

WOW The waiting is over I'm going for an install

Cobbydaler · 02-03-2007, 14:51

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Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r

Is it seriously ? and safe ?

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Originally Posted by Gavin

Cheers for that.... Bit of a leap of faith though as its so new

If you're worried, read this...

02-03-2007, 14:59

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Originally Posted by dev

last time i checked that only applies in america and their crazy copyright laws, playing dvds on linux is perfectly legal in countries except america which is why a lot of distros distribute US only isos with the dvd functionality removed

i wouldn't say the average joe could install windows tbh

most drivers are either included in the kernel and to the average joe, the distribution, any other drivers are binary-only ones and come with their own wizard like installers, no reading necessary. Regarding software, its not exactly "paragraphs" more just a few lines with the commands, the rest of the docs is just like the help in windows programs and details of what to do when things go wrong.

i'd say thats because your views come across as being too lazy to learn the differences and over exagerate what needs to be "learnt", maybe if you actually knew more about linux and what you really do need to learn, not what you think you need to learn it'll help all involved

imo anyone can know how to use linux, its not hard, just different, that isn't going to stop it being mainstream, what is though is that game developers and hardware manufacturers lack of support for it. game developers cant develop games if theres no opengl drivers and the hardware manufacturers wont make drivers if theres nothing to use them. this of course is slowly changing so when games become cross platform linux will pickup in the mainstream

If I would be allowed to swear I would be telling you to (insert expletive) off

I tried linux there is a thread maybe your to lazy to look for it

Gareth · 02-03-2007, 16:00

Have been using ntfs-fuse for a while now, and not had any problems with it whatsoever. I'll probably switch to ntfs-3g some time but for now I've not had any issues with ntfs-fuse.

To get it working, you just create a directory, e.g. /media/Windows and then edit the /etc/fstab to point the NTFS partition to the new directory... add a couple more options (mine looks like this...
/dev/sda1 /media/Windows ntfs-fuse auto,user_xattr,umask=000 1 1) and it'll automatically be available when you next reboot.

If you want to restrict access to the NTFS partition to only certain users, it can be done too very easily.

I've yet to find a way, however, of getting my Windows installation to access my ext3 partitions in either RO or RW mode.

dev · 02-03-2007, 16:20

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

If I would be allowed to swear I would be telling you to (insert expletive) off

I tried linux there is a thread maybe your to lazy to look for it

assuming you mean this thread => http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=33229 it seems you were learning fine, even made a post saying you fixed a problem on your own. as you stated in the thread you just 'need the intrest bug to hit me' so you now seem to just not be interested and seeing as you seem to be able to learn it quite easily i dont get your apparent hate for it

choosing distributions from large american companies (redhat/fedora for example) is a bad move as the american laws are enforced onto you (no mp3/dvd playback by default) whereas smaller / non-american based distributions are free to include mp3/dvd playback

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Originally Posted by Gareth

I've yet to find a way, however, of getting my Windows installation to access my ext3 partitions in either RO or RW mode.

have a look at http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/

afaik it enables read access for both ext2/3, not sure on writing never used it to write

The Jackal · 02-03-2007, 16:40

Maybe we should just open a " Zinglebarb The Linux Guru " thread and help him get upto speed with linux.

I am sure he's got a spare machine which he can use whilst we run him through an install from scratch and configure all his hardware for him.

Hows that for commitment ?

popper · 02-03-2007, 18:11

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

so what hd clips wont your pc now play?

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ok downloaded a rar file from a h.264 encoded movie . Played in it power dvd 7 full screen with clev 2 off (whatever that is Pdvd said I should) and it played fine using 29% cpu

elephants dream in 1024 H.264 MOV is always a challenge to get to 25fps even though its quicktime player compatable (i.e not useing any/all the advanced h.264 encoder options)and so is not stressing the cpu under software decoding anywere near the same as the BBC HD MBAFF AVC/H.264 encodes, i cant seem to find a link for readers at the moment for those bbc clips.

heres a link to the free Elephants Dream mpeg4-AVC /h.264 HD 1024 and the 1920 mpeg4-divX/Xvid content.
http://orange.blender.org/download

i guess the reason they dont supply a generic 1920 AVC/H.264 encode is most people cant play that size on their PC hardware.
http://xseed.bowiestate.edu/ED/eleph...264-st-aac.mov
http://tribler.org/content/Elephants...ac.mov.torrent
http://www.tribler.org/content/Eleph...HD.avi.torrent

ohh wait... found some mbaff bbc hd clip.... (nope dead link, try the search)
http://www.giusberto.ch/hdtv/
http://search.virginmedia.com/result...mbaff+clips&cr=

the only viable windows software AVC decoder (without hardware assistance) seems to be CoreAVC, thats commercial and tied to youre windows install so you cant install it on more than one machine per copy.... but still its good for what it does.

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for the likes of zing with lots of windows tech time , take a look at the slax live cd.

get any slax live cd (thats the basic thing myslax workes with), a copy of the myslax that installs on windows and allows you to compile your very own linux livecd with any of the pre-made slax modules you download.

dead easy for getting just the apps you want and put it all together inside windows....

theres still the fact you may have to mess with some scripts and edit stuff by hand but thats a given if the defaults dont work for your hardware ,but still the best compromise iv found so far.

zing, give the freeNAS livecd a go for a VERY quick way to get a network storage up and running, quicker than i can drive image a windows backout to a new drive LOL.

http://www.slax.org/links.php
http://www.slax.org/modules.php
http://myslax.bonsonno.org/ myslax windows app

http://www.slax.org/forum/
http://www.freenas.org/index.php?opt...pper&Itemid=47

most get around to trying this with freeNAS too
http://www.howtoforge.com/back_up_re...th_ghost4linux