31-10-2023, 11:30
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
GB News is all about right-wing collective group think. No presenters are hired unless they've worked for the Conservative Party or UKIP or similar right-wing party or institution. It's a real comfort zone for those who don't like to be challenged by having neutral or left of centre presenters in the room.
GB News is no Panorama and is not the home of investigative journalism. It's an echo chamber of shock jocks which is racking up Ofcom fines, that's your evidence for bad reporting.
I will follow Johnson's time there with interest.
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You've gone a bit extreme there, although a lesser degree of your assertion would be true. It's the 'right wing' assertion that bothers me - and therein lies the groupthink. 'Rightist' might be a better description that counters my 'leftie' description of the other news channels.
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31-10-2023, 12:14
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
What’s the difference between "rightist" and "right wing"?
This is what you get if you type "rightist definition politics" into Google
Or the Cambridge Dictionary definition
Quote:
a politician who supports the beliefs of the political right, especially the extreme right:
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You appear to be indulging in both casuistry and tautology…
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31-10-2023, 12:26
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
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Originally Posted by Hugh
What’s the difference between "rightist" and "right wing"?
This is what you get if you type "rightist definition politics" into Google
Or the Cambridge Dictionary definition
You appear to be indulging in both casuistry and tautology…
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You are vastly overthinking this - probably for the purpose of your usual, annoying, contrariness.
"Rightist" is a reasonable counterpoise to "Leftist" and hence "Leftie".
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31-10-2023, 13:14
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
GB News is all about right-wing collective group think. No presenters are hired unless they've worked for the Conservative Party or UKIP or similar right-wing party or institution.
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Anne Diamond, Eamonn Holmes, Michelle Dewbury, Stephen Dixon, Neil Oliver, Simon Evans, Mark Dolan, Isabel Webster.....I could go on.
All far right fascists, according to unhinged member.
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31-10-2023, 13:29
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
You've gone a bit extreme there, although a lesser degree of your assertion would be true. It's the 'right wing' assertion that bothers me - and therein lies the groupthink. 'Rightist' might be a better description that counters my 'leftie' description of the other news channels.
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I think it's quite evidently right-wing in accordance with its owners' wishes who underwrite the project. Nigel Farage, Lawrence Fox and Dan Wootton all meet this criteria. There's no left-wing presenters or centrist presenters to change this collective group think.
The heavily-regulated news channels from the BBC and Sky News aren't opinion channels in the way that GB News is. The closest channel to it in format is probably TalkTV which is right of centre but more journalist led.
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31-10-2023, 13:51
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
You are vastly overthinking this - probably for the purpose of your usual, annoying, contrariness.
"Rightist" is a reasonable counterpoise to "Leftist" and hence "Leftie".
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Stating facts ≠ overthinking.
"Everyone knows" what rightist means…
If pointing out your tautological casuistry is contrariness, I plead guilty in the court of actuality, Your Honour…
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Anne Diamond, Eamonn Holmes, Michelle Dewbury, Stephen Dixon, Neil Oliver, Simon Evans, Mark Dolan, Isabel Webster.....I could go on.
All far right fascists, according to unhinged member.
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Can’t find anyone* in this thread calling them fascists…
* except you, in post #999, re Eamonn Holmes
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31-10-2023, 13:51
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Stating facts ≠ overthinking.
"Everyone knows" what rightist means…
If pointing out your tautological casuistry is contrariness, I plead guilty in the court of actuality, Your Honour…
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I sentence you to 2 years suspended for 5 minutes for you to collect your dictionaries.
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31-10-2023, 18:38
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
Bring on fox news !
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31-10-2023, 20:16
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
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Originally Posted by Itshim
Bring on fox news !
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Been there, done that, closed it down…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41087659
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Sky stops broadcasting Fox News in UK
Published 29 August 2017
Sky is to stop broadcasting Fox News in the UK after low audience figures, the media firm has said.
21st Century Fox, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, said the channel was being withdrawn as it was not commercially viable.
The decision was not related to Fox's takeover bid for Sky, a source told the BBC.
Culture secretary Karen Bradley has previously said she may refer the bid to competition regulators.
"[Fox] has decided to cease providing a feed of Fox News Channel in the UK," a company spokeswoman said.
"Fox News is focused on the US market and designed for a US audience and, accordingly, it averages only a few thousand viewers across the day in the UK.
"We have concluded that it is not in our commercial interest to continue providing Fox News in the UK," she added.
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31-10-2023, 20:48
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
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Originally Posted by Itshim
Bring on fox news !
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Or John Craven's Newsround, 100 times the journalistic integrity of GB 'news'.
Maybe Craven could be open to an offer?
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31-10-2023, 21:33
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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Has it been that long!
I used to watch O’Reilly, before he got fired. I thought he was a self absorbed arrogant prick, but very watchable. Didn’t realise it’s been 6 years.
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02-11-2023, 04:57
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
GB News is all about right-wing collective group think. No presenters are hired unless they've worked for the Conservative Party or UKIP or similar right-wing party or institution. It's a real comfort zone for those who don't like to be challenged by having neutral or left of centre presenters in the room.
GB News is no Panorama and is not the home of investigative journalism. It's an echo chamber of shock jocks which is racking up Ofcom fines, that's your evidence for bad reporting.
I will follow Johnson's time there with interest.
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GB News has not had any financial penalties in any of the declared Ofcom breaches.
Great analysis, now do the pathetic lefty rags like guardian, or woke lefty. channel 4. Echo chambers for you Remainiacs.
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02-11-2023, 15:21
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
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Originally Posted by Mick
GB News has not had any financial penalties in any of the declared Ofcom breaches.
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In fairness it’s only been going a few years. I’m not sure I’m aware of any news outlets that have fallen foul to that level with Ofcom within its first few years.
But let’s not allow our hopes to drop - even a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually
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02-11-2023, 15:29
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
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But let’s not allow our hopes to drop - even a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually
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And if it's nutty enough they'll probably give it a presenting job
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02-11-2023, 15:33
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Re: GB News / Talk TV
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Originally Posted by Mick
GB News has not had any financial penalties in any of the declared Ofcom breaches.
Great analysis, now do the pathetic lefty rags like guardian, or woke lefty. channel 4. Echo chambers for you Remainiacs.
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I thought GB News had been fined when I read articles such as
GB News presenter quits after channel tries to make him pay Ofcom fines
It sounds like when push came to shove they decided against it.
However, they have obviously had several rulings made against their programming.
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