ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
27-10-2020, 21:34
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Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
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But you mentioned 1 game attracted less than 1000 purchases, but no mention of that in the snippet.
Of course they can, that is exactly what they did for the end of last season and received refunds.
They contracted to show games with crowds not empty cavernous stadia which is what they argued.
I agree it is not EPL fault but they gave refunds nonetheless.
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Did they get refunds because of no crowds or because about 30 games ended up free to air, the compressed schedule and games not fitting into their natural timeslots?
Sky/BT ultimately pay billions to extract revenue from games over a nine to ten month period, not have to suspend subscriptions for four months and squeeze the rest of the season into five weeks.
I’d be surprised if crowds were even mentioned in the contracts.
I agree that the viewing spectacle has dropped I just doubt it’s a contractual obligation. The get out would be force majeure but Sky/BT wouldn’t take that risk in my view. The League would probably go to Amazon.
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
The article has been updated since I quoted the free part, presumably pushing that crucial bit about the viewing figures behind the pay wall.
The update includes "A meeting of the 20 clubs today decided to stick with £14.95 for the next two rounds of matches but agreed to review the PPV price for games after the international break, with a decision to be taken on November 5."
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£20 a month for every additional game easily gets the 500k subscribers to beat the numbers they proposed for £14.95 a game.
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28-10-2020, 09:17
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I bet Amazon would quite happily step in to purchase all the extra games and then offer them free or more realistically an add on for something daft like £7.99 or £9.99 a month
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28-10-2020, 09:21
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Cannot seem to be able to book the Chisora PPV fight; you go to the booking page but its not listed - looks like the list hasn't been updated since the weekend...
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28-10-2020, 09:40
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Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
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Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian
I bet Amazon would quite happily step in to purchase all the extra games and then offer them free or more realistically an add on for something daft like £7.99 or £9.99 a month
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They would, but Sky/BT bid for 200 odd games in the belief they’d be the only ones televised. To that end selling the rest to a third party would be breach of contract which is why anything agreed has to satisfy Sky/BT.
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28-10-2020, 11:08
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28-10-2020, 11:21
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First observation is that it's recording 'viewers' not subscribers. But those are disappointing figures really.
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28-10-2020, 12:16
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An admirable dice roll for the fledgeling DAZN.
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28-10-2020, 14:34
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It is listing in SD and HD on my TiVo.
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Originally Posted by johnasimmons
Cannot seem to be able to book the Chisora PPV fight; you go to the booking page but its not listed - looks like the list hasn't been updated since the weekend...
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28-10-2020, 16:33
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These are guesstimates - not subscription figures.
Come on EPL you know the exact amount of £14.95s paid let people know or are you too embarrassed?
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They would, but Sky/BT bid for 200 odd games in the belief they’d be the only ones televised. To that end selling the rest to a third party would be breach of contract which is why anything agreed has to satisfy Sky/BT.
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Indeed, Sky/BT would not get a refund for showing the extra games (some of which were foc on sky). They negotiated a refund based on the fact the product was inferior to that they contracted to. If it hadn't re-started they would have had an even bigger refund.
I presume they are getting some sort of compensation from EPL for this season as well, again EPL are silent on this.
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28-10-2020, 17:49
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A bit more information on DAZN here.
https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...d-price-point/
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The sports streamer said that initial monthly price point for new markets will be the equivalent of £1.99 or less.
At launch, DAZN’s global platform will feature world championship boxing events, as well as an archive of classic fights, athlete features and a slate of original programming including 40 Days, Saturday Fight Live and One Night. Additional sports and programming will be added beginning in 2021, the streamer said.
The DAZN app will be available globally on most internet-connected devices, including smartphones, tablets, laptops, PCs, and living room devices such as smart TVs, streaming sticks and game consoles.
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28-10-2020, 18:31
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I’m sure customers will look forward to their ‘bait and switch’ ruse they deployed in the American market of upping the price from $9.99 to $19.99.
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29-10-2020, 06:10
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It is listing in SD and HD on my TiVo.
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Not mine, still showing last weeks PPV football WWE etc - I have manually updated my V6 & TiVo but still no update - London area
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29-10-2020, 08:31
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Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
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I’m sure customers will look forward to their ‘bait and switch’ ruse they deployed in the American market of upping the price from $9.99 to $19.99.
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Yes, well you’d expect a price rise when they land some football rights!
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29-10-2020, 10:44
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Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
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Not mine, still showing last weeks PPV football WWE etc - I have manually updated my V6 & TiVo but still no update - London area
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VM updated info - boxing is now there
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