*ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please. - Page 67

DieDieMyDarling · 04-03-2005, 18:39

If you close the cap you'll only end up with countless new posts by either new members or old ones wanting to raise new points (well new to them anyway). At least with these singular threads that encapsulate all things related, anyone who's not interested doesn't get bogged down with loads of boring threads getting in the way.

Most of the time everyone gets on fine, sometimes people get a bit heated, and if needed a mod steps in, it's been a very good thread in general.

cr80123 · 04-03-2005, 18:39

I agree jtwn - this is a very important subject and I can't believe some people want this thread closed, particularly in light of the new information obtained today which seems to suggest there will be no hard capping on the upper two tiers. And on the subject of personal insults, surely nobody is daft enough to take anything said on an internet forum personally?

Rone · 04-03-2005, 19:19

Compared to some forums i visit, this is mild in comparison, and moderated pretty generously.
As above, this thread would only be re-started [or ignited

] somewhere else, and yes, it is important i think to see the thinking, and the whats and wherefores behind any cap.
Of course it gets heated at times, but a small tap on the shoulder by a mod is usually sufficient.

**Mick** · 04-03-2005, 19:21

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Originally Posted by jtwn

As for banning the right to speak about it, what is this, some kind of nazi moderation? If you don't like it then why not just stay out of the threads? Are these boards for your own pleasure or for everybody?

I'm sorry but your well out of order for that comment. We have not banned the right to discuss the caps have we? We feel like doing so because of the constant petty bickering, same old arguements but this thread is still open isn't it?

Also, I am not, nor is any of the other team members, on a par with a group of individuals responsible for mass murder. Believe it or not but we run this site so please also do not suggest to us, to keep out of threads if we don't like something we see.

scrotnig · 04-03-2005, 19:49

The way the team moderate this site is superb. It's among the best I've seen, and that's why it's become such well-known and massively popular and respected site in its field.

You only have to look at the 'competition' to see that.

Edit: Apart from that stupid 'post merge' thing anyway!

paulyoung666 · 04-03-2005, 20:32

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Originally Posted by jtwn

As far as i can see, people talking about caps and the speed upgrade of ntl in the ntl forums is totally on-topic. After all these forums are for open discussion right?

As for banning the right to speak about it, what is this, some kind of nazi moderation? If you don't like it then why not just stay out of the threads? Are these boards for your own pleasure or for everybody?

bang out of order my friend , bang out of order

Ignition · 04-03-2005, 20:44

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Originally Posted by jtwn

It doesn't matter anyway. Looks like that 'battle' that has waged here has been won, if that news in the other thread is true, looks like no capping for 2mb/3mb.

Don't flatter yourself, if you honestly think that anyone in control at ntl cares what a handful of people on a forum say about this you are delusional.

I have a pretty good idea of the reasons for this and they are in no way related to this bbs.

scrotnig · 04-03-2005, 20:48

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Originally Posted by Ignition

Don't flatter yourself, if you honestly think that anyone in control at ntl cares what a handful of people on a forum say about this you are delusional.

I have a pretty good idea of the reasons for this and they are in no way related to this bbs.

You're wasting your breath Ig. I have spent much of the last week telling people that a couple of hundred forum members don't influence policy decisions for over a million customers, but I am weeing into the prevailing.

**Maggy** · 04-03-2005, 20:50

right this makes thr third thread I've unsubscribed from tonight.

bye!

cr80123 · 04-03-2005, 21:00

What do you think the reasons behind it are Ignition? Is it definite that there's been a change in ntl's thinking?

jtwn · 04-03-2005, 21:04

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Originally Posted by Ignition

Don't flatter yourself, if you honestly think that anyone in control at ntl cares what a handful of people on a forum say about this you are delusional.

I have a pretty good idea of the reasons for this and they are in no way related to this bbs.

It was an analogy, not to do with being against ntl. I am one of the people that feels that petitions, anticap sites, ant-x,y or z sites would never infuence a major company in its decision. Just trying to raise spirits

About the moderation, ok, nazis was the wrong word. I totally agree with this is your site and you can moderate and operate it how you want, but in the community's interest is censorship of a major topic what they really want?

At the end of the day, the people who come here make this place just as much as you made it.

But as said, its at your discretion

Didn't mean to offend anybody.

DieDieMyDarling · 04-03-2005, 21:08

A lot of people were saying it would be cap free 'for now', then introduce caps later in the year. I think the low tier situation had to be sorted out now though, because of the two choices, and that would explain why they are the only service being capped.

purenuman · 04-03-2005, 21:35

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Originally Posted by DieDieMyDarling

A lot of people were saying it would be cap free 'for now', then introduce caps later in the year. I think the low tier situation had to be sorted out now though, because of the two choices, and that would explain why they are the only service being capped.

I read it as

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Customers with the 1Mb service (3GB per month)
Ntl will be monitoring across the network to identify customers who routinely exceed their data allowance, but not enforcing this allowance until later in 2005.

Hard Cap "coming soon"

and

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Customers with the existing services or 2Mb & 3Mb (1GB per day)
Ntl reserves the right to contact customers who regularly exceed their daily usage allowance, where such excessive use impacts the quality of service for other ntl broadband customers.

No change as in no hard cap even later in the year.

I know things can change but thats where we appear to be at for the foreseeable........... untill the next free upgrades

cr80123 · 04-03-2005, 21:40

Yes that's exactly how I see it too purenuman - there is to be no hard cap on the new 2/3Mb services.

Chrysalis · 04-03-2005, 22:58

Since the mods warned the 2 guys who made very valid points against ian@huth care to warn the guys who mock me about british gas? Oh wait, I dont work for ntl and dont own shares so maybe I dont qualify.

It is clear now most isp's imposing caps are having a time of day exclusion, the average user does not browse at 3am and will be unaffected by early morning downloading so what is ntl's reason for not having a exclusion time

It is not done to death because so many questions unanswered