23-06-2008, 21:59
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff
I don't think they would be able to do anything along the lines of the PIA, it is a private contract between two companies.
Alexander Hanff
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They might want to know 80/20's thoughts about the issue though, considering they will be chairing an EU working party, or so I believe?
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23-06-2008, 22:07
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#9977
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Ooo page 666
I just don't think the EU would have any avenue for gaining access to the PIA (with exception of possibly requiring it for evidence in a legal case), they don't have the power to jump in and demand to see commercially sensitive resources without good reason. The PIA is a private business arrangement between Phorm and 80/20 Thinking they are not obliged to publish it, they merely stated they would.
Alexander Hanff
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23-06-2008, 22:14
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff
Ooo page 666
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You just beat me to it.
Anyways, looks like more Phorm PR FUD here: http://www.netimperative.com/news/20...d-system-phorm.
I'm particularly interested in the last paragraph:
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The privacy implications of the service have been investigated by two independent parties - 80/20 Thinking, a consultancy which advises companies on privacy issues, and Ernst &Young, the financial services firm, Phorm said.
Both found that none of the information collected about consumers made them personally identifiable.
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We all know that anything E&Y say is carp, but can anyone remember Simon saying anything of the sort?
OB
Edit: Just re-read this bit:
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Once the advertiser's criteria are satisfied, the advert is served and the details of that person's path across the internet are deleted.
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What a whopping porky, that is.
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23-06-2008, 22:23
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Hank
There is a big BT building in Leeds for sure (near the train station - I was there last week and noticed it)
What does anyone else think of this idea? Anyone know where the big call centres are?
(Let's focus on the issues and not go around that wheel thing again!)
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if you look at http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/ar...3&in_page_id=2 it gives call centres in St Helens on Merseyside, Dumbarton in Scotland and Kettering, Northamptonshire, Wakefield
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23-06-2008, 22:39
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Page 666 - the page of the devil
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
I think the PIA is now AWOL and should be dismissed.
It is most likely out of date with the technolology as it was back in March and how it probably is now at the end of June. I imagine there has been a lot of tweaking going on behind the scenes.
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23-06-2008, 22:40
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff
Ooo page 666
Alexander Hanff
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Kent : puff of smoke, beating of wings.
I wondered what was going on for a bit, i'm on page 1, different sort order!
EDIT : My prediction was he would leg it when his share price got there.
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23-06-2008, 22:44
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
i sent emma a email to say i had not recieved a reply to a previous one and asked about date and got this back
**************
Mr White
Apologies for the delay - will pick up tomorrow and get back to you.
We plan to trial the service shortly, I'm afraid I cannot be more specific than that but as promised we will be giving at least 24 hours notice.
Regards
Emma
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nothing much changed there then , apart from i thought it was 48 hours notice??
peter
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23-06-2008, 23:21
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I use
https://ssl.scroogle.org/
Why can't I use Google with https?
Shame.
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23-06-2008, 23:22
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by HamsterWheel
Jackson - my interpretation of what you are objecting to is that it is a bit like a voyeur looking over a wall into the window of a school changing room. As long as he keeps his [ and her] eyes shut then what's the problem ?
Sure you can argue that he might open his eyes for a crafty peek, but if you apply that then everyone who walks past the wall would also be guilty, just in case they jumped up and peered over the wall.... am I losing the plot here ?
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it would seem you might be HamsterWheel, after all, as the resident ProPhorm/ISP Interception Advocate, your post above seems to advocate it's perfectly ok for your infested ISP/Phorm personel to covertly stalk and take snapshots of school children using their specialised devices made and installed for that purpose.... and profit from that practice, a very odd stance for a Pro Phormer indeed.
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23-06-2008, 23:27
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by bluecar1
i sent emma a email to say i had not recieved a reply to a previous one and asked about date and got this back
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For a moment I thought you'd asked her on a date!!
Still could be handy if she talks in her sleep...
Nah
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23-06-2008, 23:30
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff
Ooo page 666
Alexander Hanff
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Welcome to my world, kenty puppy.
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23-06-2008, 23:41
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Is there are more information about Phorm and Virgin Media? What about this opt-out?
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23-06-2008, 23:50
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff
Ooo page 666
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Gotta get a post on this page
Hey Alex, sent you an urgent message.
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23-06-2008, 23:58
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Is it fate that Damien gets a post on page 666?
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23-06-2008, 23:58
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Paul Delaney
<snip>
Still could be handy if she talks in her sleep...
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LMAO
There are just so many things wrong with that comment, that I don't know where to start.
OB
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