Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?] - Page 66

GrimUpNorth · 13-10-2022, 20:46

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The Green Party Mick? I'm sure there's a tree hugger inside you somewhere. Trees are our friends, and would run the Country better

You don't think they'd be a bit wooden personality wise?

1andrew1 · 13-10-2022, 20:47

Good thread from Peston.

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A couple of important things. First I am as confident as I can be that early next week Truss and Kwarteng will cancel their promise NOT to increase corporation tax by 6 percentage points to raise £18bn, in one of the most humiliating ever tax u-turns.

Second, I am equally confident that the Bank of England’s £65bn rescue package for overly indebted pension funds will roll off tomorrow without causing bond prices to fall off a cliff edge.

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But without the u-turn they would both almost certainly be evicted from office, probably within weeks. The point of the u-turn is that it would buy them time to rebuild their battered reputations. And for a prime minister and chancellor under lethal pressure, nothing is more precious than time.

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1580620931487387651

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You don't think they'd be a bit wooden personality wise?

jfman · 13-10-2022, 21:05

I’m wondering how not having the courage of your convictions rebuilds reputations in a party with more snakes than a left leaning forum. Have a nice life y’all!

Mr K · 13-10-2022, 21:22

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You don't think they'd be a bit wooden personality wise?

People voting for 'personalties' and 'charisma' is where it all went wrong. Blame politicians all you want, the buck stops with the electorate. They were warned, but chose to vote for the current muppets.
(True you can't blame them for Dizzy Lizzy as they didn't get a say, such is our 'democracy', but she's just a symptom of where we've ended up of folks not doing 'thinking' when they vote).

jfman · 13-10-2022, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Mr K

People voting for 'personalties' and 'charisma' is where it all went wrong. Blame politicians all you want, the buck stops with the electorate. They were warned, but chose to vote for the current muppets.
(True you can't blame them for Dizzy Lizzy as they didn't get a say, such is our 'democracy', but she's just a symptom of where we've ended up of folks not doing 'thinking' when they vote).

The media takes its share of the blame for being complicit in cultivating these personalities. Softball interviews after softball interviews.

Compare and contrast with BBC Local Radio skewering Truss the other week. They still remember what journalism is. In SW1 they’re commentators, like in the WWE they’re just part of the show.

**Damien** · 13-10-2022, 21:52

I don't understand why they're dragging this out so painfully. It seems they know they have to u-turn but they are just letting the story drag on for days and weeks before doing so, making the story even more damaging.

daveeb · 13-10-2022, 22:26

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I don't understand why they're dragging this out so painfully. It seems they know they have to u-turn but they are just letting the story drag on for days and weeks before doing so, making the story even more damaging.

I suppose they're trying to buy time to try and think of a way to save some face, regardless of the extra damage to the country and their reputations that doubling down is doing.

**Mick** · 13-10-2022, 22:34

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 53% (+1)
CON: 19% (-1)

Via @PeoplePolling, 12 October, Changes w/ 6 October.

jfman · 13-10-2022, 22:37

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I don't understand why they're dragging this out so painfully. It seems they know they have to u-turn but they are just letting the story drag on for days and weeks before doing so, making the story even more damaging.

The hedge funds can continue to consolidate their positions.

**Mick** · 13-10-2022, 22:45

NEW: Senior Tory plot to install Rishi and Penny as caretaker Leaders, reports tomorrow’s Times Newspaper:

1andrew1 · 13-10-2022, 22:54

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Originally Posted by Mick

NEW: Senior Tory plot to install Rishi and Penny as caretaker Leaders, reports tomorrow’s Times Newspaper.

Every PM since Cameron has been no more than a caretaker leader!

jfman · 13-10-2022, 22:55

The bold King scuppers spring election, surely?

Mr K · 13-10-2022, 23:08

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NEW: Senior Tory plot to install Rishi and Penny as caretaker Leaders, reports tomorrow’s Times Newspaper:

The papers love a 'plot' !

So not even Con party members get to elect our next PM, they like the electorate can't be trusted anymore. Just a few MPs get to decide.
Our 'democracy' gets worse by the day.

**Hugh** · 13-10-2022, 23:15

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Originally Posted by Mick

NEW: Senior Tory plot to install Rishi and Penny as caretaker Leaders, reports tomorrow’s Times Newspaper:

Most ironic line in that article…

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Nadine Dorries, the former culture secretary and staunch ally of Boris Johnson, said that MPs who were suggesting a “smorgasbord of names” to replace Truss were “not taking into account the fact that they cannot foist upon the British public another prime minister that the public have not voted for.

denphone · 14-10-2022, 06:45

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Originally Posted by jfman

I’m wondering how not having the courage of your convictions rebuilds reputations in a party with more snakes than a left leaning forum. Have a nice life y’all!

They are damaged beyond repair and the most ominous thing is we got two more years before the next general election and another possible unelected leader in the process if some Tories in their party get their way..