PM Boris forms a government

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Your first statement is an out and out lie. Thatcher ran a budget deficit for a decade. Major for almost his entire Government and every single year since the Coalition took power.

And left the economy in a better state than they found it. Don't forget, the Callaghan Government left us almost bankrupt. Just like the Blair/Brown Government that followed. Same old story. Same old Labour.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

And left the economy in a better state than they found it. Don't forget, the Callaghan Government left us almost bankrupt. Just like the Blair/Brown Government that followed. Same old story. Same old Labour.

That's subjective, but also not the point you made the first time! You out and out blagged a lie that was demonstrably false and hoped nobody would call you on it.

[pip08456]

Handbags at dawn girls?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jfman

Your first statement is an out and out lie. Thatcher ran a budget deficit for a decade. Major for almost his entire Government and every single year since the Coalition took power.

Did you explain exactly what you thought was an out and out lie? OB put an “or” in his sentence.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Did you explain exactly what you thought was an out and out lie? OB put an “or” in his sentence.

It’s not fully costed and never has been. Saddling future generations with the national debt isn’t exactly fiscal responsibility, nor is selling the state assets to balance the books, neither is PFI. Blair/Brown just as complicit before anyone points that out.

[1andrew1]

If only the spell that Boris weaves over some of the UK population could be woven over Sterling. Maybe it just needs to believe more? Unpatriotic pesky currency!

Sterling tumbles to two-year low as market fears grow over no-deal Brexit

https://www.ft.com/content/c240ccda-...2-799a3a8cf37b

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

If only the spell that Boris weaves over some of the UK population could be woven over Sterling. Maybe it just needs to believe more? Unpatriotic pesky currency!

https://www.ft.com/content/c240ccda-...2-799a3a8cf37b

Surely all Sterling needs is to "go the extra thousand miles", and the other currencies be more willing to negotiate?

[jfman]

It just has to believe in itself.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

If only the spell that Boris weaves over some of the UK population could be woven over Sterling. Maybe it just needs to believe more? Unpatriotic pesky currency!

https://www.ft.com/content/c240ccda-...2-799a3a8cf37b

project fear oh hang on just wait to we get cliff edge

[Carth]

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[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

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[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

That's subjective

No it isn’t, unless you can evidence labour left it in a better state?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

No it isn’t, unless you can evidence labour left it in a better state?

Was it in a better state in 2010 than 1997? GDP per capita would say so. However it almost always says that over the long term. Which is why it’s subjective, how people and communities experience it varies.

What can be tangibly proven is that Conservative governments have consistent run budget deficits despite selling the family silver, privatising profits and underwriting capitalist failure at taxpayers expense. Which is where we started this off.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Was it in a better state in 2010 than 1997? GDP per capita would say so. However it almost always says that over the long term. Which is why it’s subjective, how people and communities experience it varies.

What can be tangibly proven is that Conservative governments have consistent run budget deficits despite selling the family silver, privatising profits and underwriting capitalist failure at taxpayers expense. Which is where we started this off.

In both 1979 and 2010, the incoming Conservative (or Conservative-led) governments were told by Labour that there was no money left. Gordon Brown raided our pensions and sold off our gold reserves.

The Callaghan government succeeded only in running the country into the ground.

Says it all, really, no matter how you prefer to spin it.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

In both 1979 and 2010, the incoming Conservative (or Conservative-led) governments were told by Labour that there was no money left. Gordon Brown raided our pensions and sold off our gold reserves.

The Callaghan government succeeded only in running the country into the ground.

Says it all, really, no matter how you prefer to spin it.

None of that detracts from your false claims that Conservative governments fully cost expenditure is 100% false.