The state benefits system mega-thread.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Sweet dreams.

[weenie]

Originally Posted by martyh

What about those who are swinging the lead or just plain faking an illness because it's easier than working ,they've managed to fool their gp and the specialist

You cannot full a specialist with crohns, and yet ATOS are taking crohns patients off benefits despite the true facts of there illness and how severe it is. The barium enemas,mri scan,scope, ct scan all show this illness and how severe it is as it can vary, CT scan demonstrates inflammatory mass in the right lower quadrant ... MRI demonstrates thickening of the wall of the right colon, tests need to be done to confirm the patient has crohns the first is usually a barium followed by a scope then a scan ... I do wonder how many other illnesses ATOS do this with...ignore the facts and prove as to how severe the illness is ...

Originally Posted by Gary L

I think Tiz was referring to the government appeasing the tax payers. not Atos.

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What's wrong with 'appeasing' tax payers instead of simply screwing them over and treating them like cash cows as in the recent past.

Originally Posted by martyh

What's wrong with 'appeasing' tax payers instead of simply screwing them over and treating them like cash cows as in the recent past.

as long as you realise that is what they are doing and not really getting anywhere else other than urinating in the wind and wasting anything saved on the Universal credit fiasco

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

What's wrong with 'appeasing' tax payers instead of simply screwing them over and treating them like cash cows as in the recent past.

The thing that's wrong with it in the case with Atos, is that they are claiming people are fit for work when they're not.

but it's not for anyone's good or benefit. because the chance or likelihood of them getting a job is practically zero.
it's good and benefits the taxpayer, as most of them are sheep. a sheep that at one time may have opened the door, helped them across the road. and in some cases felt sorry for them.
but not now. now they want them to stop faking and get up and walk.

but they're not expected to get a job anyway.

fit for work. simply means a cut in money.
they probably won't be bothered again. they probably don't get asked about if they've got a job yet by a government body.
as long as they accept that they're fit for work and take the cut in money. any government body is happy enough.


that's all it is about. that's what it's always been about.

Originally Posted by Gary L

The thing that's wrong with it in the case with Atos, is that they are claiming people are fit for work when they're not.

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and how exactly do you know that ,how do you know that a cancer sufferer(for eg) is not well enough to work ? are you basing your evidence on the fact that ATOS said they can work so the decision must be wrong

Originally Posted by martyh

and how exactly do you know that ,how do you know that a cancer sufferer(for eg) is not well enough to work ? are you basing your evidence on the fact that ATOS said they can work so the decision must be wrong

the large number of successful appeals

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

as long as you realise that is what they are doing and not really getting anywhere else other than urinating in the wind and wasting anything saved on the Universal credit fiasco

You really have no notion at all about the aim of the welfare changes do you

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

and how exactly do you know that ,how do you know that a cancer sufferer(for eg) is not well enough to work ? are you basing your evidence on the fact that ATOS said they can work so the decision must be wrong

Is the cancer sufferer the one who's got a few months left to live?

or is it the other one?

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Originally Posted by martyh

You really have no notion at all about the aim of the welfare changes do you

I do.
it's all about pleasing the tax payers. and using the poor/disabled/sick as a scapegoat and a smokescreen.

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

the large number of successful appeals

AH so let me get this right .........most people get what they need

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

AH so let me get this right .........most people get what they need

I don't understand what you mean?

This thread had better start looking like adults are posting in it [over the next few pages] or its days are numbered.

[Jimmy-J]

Benefits made me 23st

WARNING: This story will make your blood boil

A JOBLESS junk food addict who has ballooned to 23st splurging on takeaways blamed her lavish benefits yesterday as she demanded a gastric band op as compensation.
Mum-of-two Helen Jobson, 44, gorges at least three times a week on feasts from the local Chinese, McDonald’s or kebab van.

She raged: “People tell me it’s my fault because I’m fat.

“But I don’t see it that way."

The Sun Link - Says it all!

Why do people pay to read crap like this?

[MalteseFalcon]

I am obese as well, yet I don't blame others for my weight. Shows what type of person she is, expecting something for nothing all the time. Hope the NHS tells her where to go, I would be furious on behalf of taxpayers if she gets a gastric band fitted.

[peanut]

'Lavish' - Haha, I don't know who's worse, the Sun or this plank of a woman. Obviously I do - both.

Why would anyone agree to doing a story like this, it's only going to make this cretin out to be worse, whatever backlash she gets from this she deserves.

I'm not sure what is supposed to make my blood boil though, most probably that people like this really exist maybe, but no more than some members and their comments on here.