28-02-2025, 14:20
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Because he (or his advisers) know how to butter Trump up in order to get him to do what they want. It’s called international diplomacy. It’s why Trump has been offered a second state visit to the UK (this has never happened before - second-term US presidents do usually visit again, and see the monarch, but it is short of an official state visit). Also why he invited him by flourishing a wax-sealed parchment under his nose in the Oval Office. It’s theatre, designed to stroke the ego of a very thin-skinned man-baby and con him into eating his vegetables.
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So starmer is not adverse to bribery 
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28-02-2025, 14:41
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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So starmer is not adverse to bribery |
Diplomacy is all about give and take. 
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28-02-2025, 14:57
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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That's speculation. King Charles probably wants to address things with Trump, global warming is close to King Charles whereas Trump wants to drill like never before.
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I expect King Charles will be guided by Court and government advisers on what topics to cover in his conversations with President Trump and knows when to agree to disagree or keep quiet. However, I expect Trump may be more free-flowing.
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28-02-2025, 18:51
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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King Charles probably wants to address things with Trump, global warming is close to King Charles whereas Trump wants to drill like never before.
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That's speculation. 
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28-02-2025, 19:24
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
It went a lot better than Zelenskyy’s visit …………..
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28-02-2025, 22:42
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Will be interesting to see how Starmer responds to Zelensky in the upcoming visit. Cozy up to him too much and the orange nutjob might get jealous and have second thoughts on the UK tariffs issue. What a minefield 
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28-02-2025, 22:44
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Will be interesting to see how Starmer responds to Zelensky in the upcoming visit. Cozy up to him too much and the orange nutjob might get jealous and have second thoughts on the UK tariffs issue. What a minefield |
Trump doesn't care if we support Ukraine. He has just had Starmer lobby for them in person.
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28-02-2025, 22:50
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Trump may well not care but British exceptionalism dictates that Starmer and others believe he does.
The one positive from tonight is the lobby journos in the weekend papers and podcast goons will shelve all the “Starmer did so well” puff pieces that were in motion.
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28-02-2025, 23:54
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Welcome back, comrade
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03-03-2025, 10:50
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Looks like Ukraine s going to be the theme of Starmer's first term. (Too early to say if he will have a second or even a third term)
The whingers in the Conservative and Reform Parties who clutch at their well-thumbed copies of the Daily Express and remote control for GB News and throw a hissy fit every time a British PM has an affable discussion with an EU counterpart (they label it "betrayal of Brexit"), are thankfully remarkably quiet. Even Farage, not adverse to popping into a Russian Embassy and forgetting why he spent time there, has dialled down on repeating the line that the invasion was the West's fault.
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03-03-2025, 17:29
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Diplomacy is all about give and take. |
Giving and receiving of bribes 
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03-03-2025, 18:10
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Looks like Ukraine s going to be the theme of Starmer's first term. (Too early to say if he will have a second or even a third term)
The whingers in the Conservative and Reform Parties who clutch at their well-thumbed copies of the Daily Express and remote control for GB News and throw a hissy fit every time a British PM has an affable discussion with an EU counterpart (they label it "betrayal of Brexit"), are thankfully remarkably quiet. Even Farage, not adverse to popping into a Russian Embassy and forgetting why he spent time there, has dialled down on repeating the line that the invasion was the West's fault.
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Strange how Farage's favourite word "sovereignty" seems to be missing from his take on Ukraine and its invasion by Russia.
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04-03-2025, 10:22
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Strange how Farage's favourite word "sovereignty" seems to be missing from his take on Ukraine and its invasion by Russia.
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Farage the plastic patriot strikes again...
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12-03-2025, 15:21
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
More woes.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwynxyxl9e1o
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Health Secretary Wes Streeting has called for his former assistant to stand down as an east London councillor after the aide admitted indecent exposure.
Sam Gould, 33, a Redbridge representative, pleaded guilty to two separate counts at Barkingside Magistrates' Court in Ilford on Monday.
The Labour councillor has been suspended from the party but "there is no process for his suspension" from Redbridge Council, the local authority says.
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