2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll

[ashgray]

i think you know why the bnp wouldn't like you,and its got nothing to do with jobs.
but i see why you don't like the bnp and i suppose if i was in your position i'd feel the same.oh and i don't know if you know it but the edl is not the bnp so it was a edl rally that you were at,not a bnp rally

but i don't agree with everything the bnp say or do just like i don't agree with everything the main stream parties do,but after this election fiasco i think its time the english started to look after themselves and alex salmond and his party can go forth and multiply as they say and take gordon brown with him.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by ashgray

Bullcrap.
There are lots of british people who will work,but don't get the chance because the bosses want cheap foreign labour that they can work like dogs.

There are plenty of British people who don't want to work. Or did you think that there was a sudden wave of disabling afflictions that washed over the country?

I've done 12 hour shifts with minimal breaks by the way, I've left home at 5am, arrived back at 10pm or later, and I've worked like hell in a warehouse. It's called a work ethic, something that is sadly missing from many people.

You seem to think that being British somehow makes us superior. Sorry to disappoint you but we're all pretty much the same underneath, nationality is just a label.

It is amusing though that you are so proud of being British yet can't write your own language properly.

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Originally Posted by ashgray

i think its time the english started to look after themselves and alex salmond and his party can go forth and multiply as they say and take gordon brown with him.

I agree, federalism is the way forward for England and the nationalist parties would have extremely undue influence in a Lab/Lib coalition.

What this has to do with your earlier xenophobic/nationalist diatribe though I'm not sure.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by ashgray

i think you know why the bnp wouldn't like you,and its got nothing to do with jobs.

OK please humour me and tell me why you think they wouldn't like me because for the life of me I have no idea. I'm as British as you presumably are so why would they not like me?

Originally Posted by ashgray

but i see why you don't like the bnp and i suppose if i was in your position i'd feel the same.

What is "my position"? Please don't hint or suggest, feel free to come straight out with it.

Originally Posted by ashgray

oh and i don't know if you know it but the edl is not the bnp so it was a edl rally that you were at,not a bnp rally

I was there, you were not: there were BNP flags, banners and posters being carried by large sections of them.

Originally Posted by ashgray

but i don't agree with everything the bnp say or do just like i don't agree with everything the main stream parties do,but after this election fiasco i think its time the english started to look after themselves and alex salmond and his party can go forth and multiply as they say and take gordon brown with him.

So what you mean is you're not so much a BNP supporter but rather an English Elitist?

Originally Posted by Neil22

So the 15 years of Tory ruin we had in the 80's and early 90's when we had record interest rates, reposessions at a record high, industry closing on a record scale, Tories filling their pockets with cash from the "BIG UK SELL OFF" from Steel, Coal, Gas, Railways and many many more UK owned industries.

LMFAO - What about Labour (Allegedly) filling their pockets from the donations from the Unions? Oh yes, you forget about that little detail..

Originally Posted by Neil22

15 years of Tory ruin will take 20+ years to put right. A slow and painful death for a Tory can't come soon enough IMO.

You need to get your head out of the sand quick sharp.

If the shoe fits - wear it. Brief reminder why Labour have failed the people and LOST this latest election:-

Labour promised never to put up Taxes - they put up Taxes.

They said they would get tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime - Nice words but that is all they are, just words.

Labour were left red faced after abolishing the 10p Tax band.

Labour were in power when the expenses system was massively abused by MP's.

And 13,000 other odd failings by Labour that I just cannot be arsed to list.

The Labour party are an old and battered party and need to go regardless who will be the new leader.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble

Do you honestly think he has to wait for them to organise a conference and get that going, then vote. I doubt it. Maybe he has to put it to the party executive, but I doubt everyone in the party has to have a vote. They've voted him as their leader. He makes the decisions, otherwise, why bother with a leader, we'll all vote on every tiny thing.

From what I understand he has little choice, he can hardly ignore what is written in their constitution, can he. How much credibility do you think that will afford him?

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Russ

What is "my position"? Please don't hint or suggest, feel free to come straight out with it.

Perhaps he is referring to your foreign partner?

Just a guess.

Originally Posted by Mick

Labour were in power when the expenses system was massively abused by MP's.

This argument seems weak to me, The other parties hand their hands in the till. Can hardly trust them to have controlled the system when they were getting everything they could get their grubby mits on.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Mick

LMFAO - What about Labour (Allegedly) filling their pockets from the donations from the Unions? Oh yes, you forget about that little detail..



If the shoe fits - wear it. Brief reminder why Labour have failed the people and LOST this latest election:-

Labour promised never to put up Taxes - they put up Taxes.

They said they would get tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime - Nice words but that is all they are, just words.

Labour were left red faced after abolishing the 10p Tax band.

Labour were in power when the expenses system was massively abused by MP's.

And 13,000 other odd failings by Labour that I just cannot be arsed to list.

The Labour party are an old and battered party and need to go regardless who will be the new leader.

It's evident that those rose tinted specs are a major cause of selective amnesia as well as gross political misjudgement isn't it??..

New Labour have brought us to the edge of a massive financial abyss after 13 years in power spending borrowed money (and latterly printing currency) like there was no tomorrow and yet all some people can seem to do is whine about the previous government as if their errors are relevant now.

I'm wondering whether these same people run their personal finances the way New Labour have run the UK's.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Escapee

Perhaps he is referring to your foreign partner?

'Foreign'? You mean the one who was born here, holds a British passport, worked almost all her adult life and is now studying to be a solicitor?

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Nearly a punch up live on Sky News
Campbell and Boulton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XHuZqyuIS8

Boulton is an arrogant twit. He has spent the last six months telling everybody how to think and when someone reminds him of it, he starts shouting that someone else shouldn't tell him what everybody thinks of him. His job is to report the news, not have arguments with those who are in the news. He has lost tons of credibility in those five minutes. My guess is that he spent too long on the pub at lunchtime.

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Boulton is an arrogant twit. He has spent the last six months telling everybody how to think and when someone reminds him of it, he starts shouting that someone else shouldn't tell him what everybody thinks of him. His job is to report the news, not have arguments with those who are in the news. He has lost tons of credibility in those five minutes. My guess is that he spent too long on the pub at lunchtime.

My guess is lack of sleep Was funny when he lost it though.

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Boulton is an arrogant twit. He has spent the last six months telling everybody how to think and when someone reminds him of it, he starts shouting that someone else shouldn't tell him what everybody thinks of him. His job is to report the news, not have arguments with those who are in the news. He has lost tons of credibility in those five minutes. My guess is that he spent too long on the pub at lunchtime.

And Alastair Campbell is the epitome of even-handed balance....

btw, nice smear at the end of your post - most unlike you.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Russ

'Foreign'? You mean the one who was born here, holds a British passport, worked almost all her adult life and is now studying to be a solicitor?

It was the only reason I could think of for the comment as I had seen a post where you mentioned your partner, and to be fair the fact that someone is born here does not make any difference to some.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Excellent. By my calculations Labour have been/were in power for 13 years or so. 7 more years and we are in the land of milk and honey.



Yep she is. My job is better paid than it was under the tories as well. The thing is thats all labour know how to do. Throw money at a problem without thinking of the effects of it or how to pay for it.

How much of a pay cut are you prepared to take? How much of a pay cut are you prepared to accept nurses to have to take?

Originally Posted by Flyboy

How much of a pay cut are you prepared to take? How much of a pay cut are you prepared to accept nurses to have to take?

My pay has been frozen, and will be for 3 years - will that help (I work at a University).

The books have to be balanced somehow.