*ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please.

[Matth]

It seems that existing 300k (£17.99 ) users will have a choice, as stated

Stay at a "Lite" 300k, with a cap that you could still hit if you tried VERY hard.
Move to 1Mbit, with "Lite" cap of 3Gb - (down from the 5Gb we all saw leaked) - can't grumble, since they target this as the "browsers" tariff, not a downloaders, so the fact that you can't use high-speed streaming (300k), or can't use it for for very long (3Gb) is intentional.

Looks like the 40Gb limit is back on the table for the 3Mbit, but is it enough?
Pay 52% more, for 50% more speed and 33% more capacity, when the next tariff down is still 33% faster than the old 1.5Mbit.

[Horace]

If hard capping won't be enforced till "later" in the year, although that post seems to be of some debate right now (arses and elbows anyone ? ). Anyway could a 300k user move up to 1mb with the temporary soft cap then back down to 300k when the hard cap comes in for 1mb+ or is there no turning back once you've left 300k-land ?
Suppose this question applies whenever the soft/hard/ takes place since some people may find their usage is greater than expected and may like to move back down to the lowest tier.

if hard capping is brought in without an overnight exlcusion time, i will leave. I dont really want to, but i do not like having to check my usage patterns all the time, and i dont want to have to screw around and try and predict my future months usage if i wanted to download a suse DVD at 5gb at the start of the month.

anyway, as always, we are just talking hypotheticals because as yet nothing has been announced officially about hard capping.

edit: and if the guy who left me a reputation point thingy with the word "prat" wants to pm me so i can find out what his issue is and hopefully address his concerns, it would be appreciated

Originally Posted by bontrager

if hard capping is brought in without an overnight exlcusion time, i will leave. I dont really want to, but i do not like having to check my usage patterns all the time, and i dont want to have to screw around and try and predict my future months usage if i wanted to download a suse DVD at 5gb at the start of the month.

anyway, as always, we are just talking hypotheticals because as yet nothing has been announced officially about hard capping.

edit: and if the guy who left me a reputation point thingy with the word "prat" wants to pm me so i can find out what his issue is and hopefully address his concerns, it would be appreciated

Dont Worry i got one with "here's your dummy back"

[Earwig]

Originally Posted by Bill C

Dont Worry i got one with "here's your dummy back"

LMAO. Made me chuckle reading that. So far I have had only nice ones and one saying "Off Topic"

What exactly are these reputation point things for anyway??


And back on track.

These caps are still not "Concrete" are they?? I am just wondering wether to start up a contract with Pipex just yet?

Originally Posted by Earwig

These caps are still not "Concrete" are they?? I am just wondering wether to start up a contract with Pipex just yet?

Depends on what you mean by "concrete". They are the set caps and not likely to change, however, they are not likely to be properly enforced until very late in the year.

[Chrysalis]

still have to wonder on 2 key points.

why is upload excused from cap when there is upload saturation.

why are ntl so stringent on it been an all day cap and no early morning exclude time.

[Earwig]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

still have to wonder on 2 key points.

why is upload excused from cap when there is upload saturation.

why are ntl so stringent on it been an all day cap and no early morning exclude time.

I thought 2 way traffic was included in the cap?

As far as I knew upload AND download would both be monitored

[Chrysalis]

so did I but recent posts have suggested its now download only.

[Earwig]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

so did I but recent posts have suggested its now download only.

To be honest I don't think anyone really knows what is going to happen. Those that probably do Cannot tell us anything.

Guess we will see soon right, March 17th?? Or is that under debate also now>?

[Chrysalis]

I doubt March 17th means much, if its a farce like the last upgrade was and spread over 3-4 months then some area's probably wont see it until close to autumn.

So this is my guess, since its been said NTL probably wont enforce till late in the year, people in uncongested area's will get the upgrade early and during the time it takes NTL to get the other area's up to par the early adopters will enjoy the upgrade cap free and then when everyone is upgraded NTL will enforce the cap so those who get it last will not only have waited longer they will also not get to use it cap free. This is my thoery of course.

Ok! Now would it be better for me to upgrade from 300k now to the next tier.I frankly wouldn't have minded a 5GB cap but three is a bit low.Plus if my son does go ahead and get XBox live,won't 300k be unusable for his needs and if I go for the upgrade a 3GB cap will also hamper him too?

Don't ask me what my downloads add up to in a month I've no idea.I doubt very much that I've ever gone over 1 GB a day thus far but I reckon I could do 3GB over a month quite easily.

So how much is it likely to cost me to upgrade IF I do it NOW?

Broadband services are charged at standard costs (300K = £17.99; 750K = £24.99; 1.5Mb = £37.99)

Standard costs with no offers. so to go from 300K to 750K (soon to be 2MB) would be an extra £7/month.

[jtwn]

TBH, i think anybody on 300k should upgrade to 1mb even if they don't intend to, until the caps come into force, and then revert back to 300k if 5gb is too much.

I am not going to be changing my usage until i am told that the caps have been applied, hard.

Originally Posted by jtwn

TBH, i think anybody on 300k should upgrade to 1mb even if they don't intend to, until the caps come into force, and then revert back to 300k if 5gb is too much.

If you read the whole thread (might take a few hours! ), I think you'll find that once the new tiers come in, CHANGING to one of the old tiers will not be an option.