2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll

[danielf]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Just seen the John Reid (ex Labour Home Secretary) interview on the BBC - he said the public shouldn't support a Coalition of Losers (Lab and LibDem), and that the future of the country seems to being predicated by something that 73% of the country didn't vote on (Proportional Representation), which can't be right.

That seems a little dramatic to me. It's unlikely there will be major electoral reform without a referendum.

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Originally Posted by nomadking

The Lib-Dems campaigned in many areas saying that they are the alternative to the party of the sitting MP. That means that many of the current votes are likely to be in 'protest' to the party of their sitting MP. Could that mean that under PR the Lib-Dems would get less votes?

Only if you apply very twisted logic, but you've repeatedly shown to be capable of that.

[ashgray]

Originally Posted by Russ

Why do you hope so?

You think your clever work it out for yourself.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by ashgray

You think your clever work it out for yourself.

Haven't I shown I've got no idea? I'm British so why would the BNP be against me?

Originally Posted by ashgray

You think your clever work it out for yourself.

Because you're a racist bigot?

[NoKnowledge]

Originally Posted by ashgray

You think your clever work it out for yourself.

you're. Hee-Hee

[ashgray]

Originally Posted by Masque

So all the deadbeats that have not worked since they left school cannot get jobs because of cheap foreign labour, I do not think so it because of the welfare culture we have now.

I know people that have not worked for 25 years plus and this was before the influx of cheap labour, at least the foreign labour wants to work where many of our own people refuse to ever work.

you admit that not all of our unemployed are refusing to work then,because you put MANY of our own people.MANY your words not mine.
i personally think that not one job should be given to a foreigner whilst there is a british person stood in a dole que that could do that job,and if they say that the won't do that job then they should be put into the Army and taught that staying on the dole is not an option.
its no good taking there dole money off them like these idiots in government want to do.that will only encourage them to go thieving and robbing.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Because you're a racist bigot?

And your names Gordon Brown.

Originally Posted by Russ

I came to England and took a job that 14 English people went for, do you think the BNP would be against me?

I hope not, unless the welsh are no longer british ....

Originally Posted by NoKnowledge

you're. Hee-Hee

Lets not start with this eh. Lots of people use your (including me).

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Originally Posted by ashgray

And your names Gordon Brown.

and this is not a schoolyard. Try not to act like it is.

[ashgray]

Originally Posted by Russ

Really? You've got no idea of the conditions of some of the factories I worked in when I was younger.

Anyway, why do you hope the BNP would be against me?

would these be british factories or foreign factories.

John Ried's just gone up in my estimation. He doesn't think a Lib-Lab pact will wash because it will also require bribes to nationalists.

[ashgray]

Originally Posted by Paul M

I hope not, unless the welsh are no longer british ....


Lets not start with this eh. Lots of people use your (including me).

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and this is not a schoolyard. Try not to act like it is.

so its ok for you lot to have your say is it but i can't have mine,is this what your saying.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by ashgray

would these be british factories or foreign factories.

Both.

Why do you hope the BNP would be against me?

[ashgray]

I now know why your trying to goad me russ and i know why you don't like the bnp,frightened are you.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by danielf

Only if you apply very twisted logic, but you've repeatedly shown to be capable of that.

How is that twisted logic? The Lib-Dems do campaign in certain areas on the basis that they are the alternative to the sitting MP(Conservative or Labour). As such, they are expecting people to not necessarily vote for the party that the voter wants but to vote Lib-Dem to vote out the party that the voter doesn't want. It's known as tactical voting.

Guardian article

Tactical voting will unquestionably leave its mark on Thursday, just as it has in all recent general elections. Some estimates suggest that nearly one vote in 10 will be cast tactically; several new MPs and plenty of re-elected ones may owe their victories to it

BBC News item

He said tactical voting benefited Labour to the tune of about 20 seats when they came to power, while the Lib Dems gained a dozen thanks to voters whose main aim was to oust the Conservative government.

So am I the one with twisted logic?

Originally Posted by ashgray

so its ok for you lot to have your say is it but i can't have mine,is this what your saying.

Yes, of course, thats exactly what I said isnt it

When you have finished making up things I never said, be warned, you really do not want to start a fight with me, there will only be one winner.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by ashgray

I now know why your trying to goad me russ and i know why you don't like the bnp,frightened are you.

I'm not trying to goad you, I'm just trying to work out why you think the BNP wouldn't like a Welsh person moving to England to get a job.

As for frightened, I don't fear them but after witnessing the violent and thug-like behaviour of their supporters at the Anti-EDL rally in Swansea last year I can understand why some people would be.