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		|  23-11-2017, 22:45 | #886 |  
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					Originally Posted by Damien  That said it does appear the cities were warned this was possible: https://twitter.com/mattholehouse 
The government seems to have given assurances to them that contradicted the EU's own advice about how likely it is that this would happen. |  Well we can't live without all those crumbs from the EU's table so let's just overturn the referendum result then and be done with it...     |  
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		|  23-11-2017, 22:48 | #887 |  
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			Actually it looks like some in the Government told the Department for Culture not to bid, they did so anyway, councils paid out money promoting their bids.
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		|  24-11-2017, 01:23 | #888 |  
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					Originally Posted by Damien  That said it does appear the cities were warned this was possible: https://twitter.com/mattholehouse 
The government seems to have given assurances to them that contradicted the EU's own advice about how likely it is that this would happen. |  The worrying thing is what similar assurances the government has given to companies like Nissan that turn out to be worthless.
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		|  24-11-2017, 04:48 | #889 |  
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					Originally Posted by Damien  It is a European Commission award but Istanbul have won it before on the bias they 'might' join the EU. Turkey is a long way from every being admitted into the EU so if they qualify on that criteria we should qualify as having been a member. |  Ah yes the other big lie, 77 million Turks making their way to Britain as we speak   https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/66...sa-free-travel 
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  The worrying thing is what similar assurances the government has given to companies like Nissan that turn out to be worthless. |  We don't know what assurances were given to the Japanese car manufacturers as they're too sensitive to be revealed to the public
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		|  24-11-2017, 06:07 | #890 |  
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					Originally Posted by TheDaddy  Ah yes the other big lie, 77 million Turks making their way to Britain as we speak   https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/66...sa-free-travel
We don't know what assurances were given to the Japanese car manufacturers as they're too sensitive to be revealed to the public |  Like most things they feed the public scraps of obfuscated information dressed up with a miniscule of truth.
		 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Like most things they feed the public scraps of obfuscated information dressed up with a miniscule of truth. |  More like the public would be horrified to learn the details of this sweetheart deal...
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		|  24-11-2017, 10:32 | #892 |  
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			On the city of culture thing, a cursory search shows that in the past, non-EU potential candidates were considered for the city of culture, hence Istanbul and Stavanger being allowed. However, the rules have changed so only EU, EU candidate and EFTA/EEA countries will be considered. This was approved by the European Parliament (73 UK MEPs) and Council (Theresa May for the UK)
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		|  24-11-2017, 14:36 | #893 |  
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					Originally Posted by jonbxx  On the city of culture thing, a cursory search shows that in the past, non-EU potential candidates were considered for the city of culture, hence Istanbul and Stavanger being allowed. However, the rules have changed so only EU, EU candidate and EFTA/EEA countries will be considered. This was approved by the European Parliament (73 UK MEPs) and Council (Theresa May for the UK) |  So you agree despite your alliance with the EU, that the EU are being nothing but spiteful.
 
But sod those imbeciles. Let the UK do our own competition and call their competition FAKE!
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		|  24-11-2017, 17:06 | #894 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mick  So you agree despite your alliance with the EU, that the EU are being nothing but spiteful.
 But sod those imbeciles. Let the UK do our own competition and call their competition FAKE!
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		|  24-11-2017, 19:25 | #895 |  
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					Originally Posted by jonbxx  Err, the new framework was decided in 2014, two years before the referendum |  Lol. Well batted!    |  
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		|  24-11-2017, 19:30 | #896 |  
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			With a bit of luck, we won't be participating in Eurovision any more either! This Brexit thing just keeps on giving!    |  
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  With a bit of luck, we won't be participating in Eurovision any more either! This Brexit thing just keeps on giving!   |  Ha ha, even the Ozzies can't escape participation in Eurovision!
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		|  24-11-2017, 20:08 | #898 |  
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					Originally Posted by jonbxx  Err, the new framework was decided in 2014, two years before the referendum |  This does not err, remove my earlier view that they are behaving in a spiteful manner. 
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Lol. Well batted!   |  But not really.    |  
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		|  24-11-2017, 20:22 | #899 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mick  This does not err, remove my earlier view that they are behaving in a spiteful manner |  Lol, you are joking aren't you? It really isn't that hard!   
2014: Britain and the rest of the EU agree that only EU member states, EU candidate states and EFTA/EEA countries will be considered. 
2016: One country decides to leave the EU thus disqualifying itself from the European City of Culture competition. 
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Lol, you are joking aren't you? It really isn't that hard!   
2014: Britain and the rest of the EU agree that only EU member states, EU candidate states and EFTA/EEA countries will be considered. 
2016: One country decides to leave the EU thus disqualifying itself from the European City of Culture competition. 
So, is the EU being spiteful in not allowing countries like New Zealand to participate?      |  
The EU is spiteful, in terms of their decision against the UK, there, I just said it again, want it a third time?
 
The EU is spiteful!!!
 
And for the record, New Zealand is not a European Country, last time I looked, how can it even begin to win 'European City of Culture', when it's on the other side of the World, so no it is not being spiteful, bit of a poor analogy there Andrew.
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