2mb service - Page 6

fraz · 30-11-2003, 12:05

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Originally Posted by Kitty

Yes the linksys router I have can't do it... I know the SCAM can if you can ping it but I can't ping mine and I do know the settings are right for the router to allow this if it wasn't blocked on the SACM by someone who already can ping theirs but using Blueyonder. Also with the loss of .com I have lost links that I was working on to try and get some more help with this situation.

so use a linux box and iptables in between your router (or instead of your router) and your internal network

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2mb would be great but only with ways to monitor the downloads and uploads. Keeping this info just for the Staff is a way to say we can watch you but you can't watch yourself.. Then we only have your word that we have exceeding the allowed AUP..

Question: do youkeep an individual log of every individual phone call thats made or do you rely on NTLs bill recording the numbers called ?

Ignition · 30-11-2003, 12:17

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Originally Posted by fraz

me too also

and before anyone starts getting apopletic heart attacks I'll reiterate my sig file,

thats my personal opinion as a customer using an ntl cablemodem same as everyoner else.

Exactly the same sentiments from me, as I've posted on other forums elsewhere, it's the only way to next gen speeds at reasonable prices while maintaining a good quality of service.

Florence · 30-11-2003, 12:18

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Originally Posted by fraz

so use a linux box and iptables in between your router (or instead of your router) and your internal network

Question: do youkeep an individual log of every individual phone call thats made or do you rely on NTLs bill recording the numbers called ?

Keep a record of every call and fax sent now have since the large bill. Time/number and how long talking. Fax keeps its log and can print out when asked.

Jerrek · 30-11-2003, 15:38

I'm a little lost in all of this, but, being a member of IEEE's Communications Society (I like telecommunications), some of this stuff interests me. What is EuroDocsis? Is that some bastar*dization of DOCSIS 1.1 or 2.0?

Do you guys in England have Tx lines or Ex lines?

**Paul** · 30-11-2003, 16:02

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Originally Posted by fraz

Personally all I want from an ISP is a net connection thats stable(which touch wood mine has been) . I dont need all the boltons such as email,newsgroups.webspace etc etc and I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that want nothing more as well.

Hmm think how much money could be spent on improving the network if you didnt have to maintain email & webspace servers ?? Probably more than enough to offer everyone a 2Mb plus service without any usage guidelines :-)

I agree with you, I don't believe NTL need to (or should) offer webspace or newsgroups or games servers or e-mail or any other crap like that. Such things should be left to other companies to provide and you simply choose which ISP you want to use to connect to them all.

Shaun · 30-11-2003, 16:10

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Originally Posted by pem

I agree with you, I don't believe NTL need to (or should) offer webspace or newsgroups or games servers or e-mail or any other crap like that. Such things should be left to other companies to provide and you simply choose which ISP you want to use to connect to them all.

But they do thats the point, and they provide a crap service with them.

If they didn't want to provide all that stuff then they should have sold the product as a basic connection to the net, nothing more.

For ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£24.99 a month its a bloody expensive "basic connection to the net" don't you think , especially if the DNS doesn't work.

th'engineer · 30-11-2003, 16:35

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Originally Posted by dellwear

But they do thats the point, and they provide a crap service with them.

If they didn't want to provide all that stuff then they should have sold the product as a basic connection to the net, nothing more.

For ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£24.99 a month its a bloody expensive "basic connection to the net" don't you think , especially if the DNS doesn't work.

Quite agree with you on this with all the problems we should be payed to take the service :p can honestly say it never passes a week without sime problem or the other with NTL.

DNS e-mail newsgroups Ubrs all preventable with maintainance and back up systems

BBKing · 30-11-2003, 16:50

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Originally Posted by th'engineer

Quite agree with you on this with all the problems we should be payed to take the service :p can honestly say it never passes a week without sime problem or the other with NTL.

DNS e-nail newsgroups Ubrs all preventable with maintainance and back up systems

e-nail? Not heard of that, is it some kind of virtual DIY?

th'engineer · 30-11-2003, 16:58

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Originally Posted by BBKing

e-nail? Not heard of that, is it some kind of virtual DIY?

Virtual Diy keeping a NTL connection

Ignition · 30-11-2003, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

I'm a little lost in all of this, but, being a member of IEEE's Communications Society (I like telecommunications), some of this stuff interests me. What is EuroDocsis? Is that some bastar*dization of DOCSIS 1.1 or 2.0?

Do you guys in England have Tx lines or Ex lines?

Hi Jerrek.

EuroDOCSIS is another development of DOCSIS standard, it supplies a downstream of 38Mbit/s at QAM64 modulation rather than the standard DOCSIS 1.0/1.1 27Mbit/s, with no extra demands on carrier-noise ratio IIRC.

England, in common with pretty much everyone else except North America

has Ex lines and STMx lines not OCx lines

Jerrek · 30-11-2003, 21:01

Indeed. Japan has Jx lines by the way. BBKing also messaged me with a few points how EuroDOCSIS differs from DOCSIS. Most important is the 8 vs 6 MHz bandwidth.

Ignition · 30-11-2003, 22:57

Yip the only real issue is making sure there's an 8MHz rather than a 6MHz wide band clean enough for transmission.

Rone · 01-12-2003, 17:35

I objected to paying ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£34pm for a 1 meg service that was barely faster than 600k, and i cant say i,m overwhelmed by the speed of 600k, but its cheaper. So why i would want to pay more, would take some thinking about.
No point in taxing the already overtaxed ntl network.

DrAwesome · 01-12-2003, 18:05

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Originally Posted by Rone

I objected to paying ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£34pm for a 1 meg service that was barely faster than 600k, and i cant say i,m overwhelmed by the speed of 600k, but its cheaper. So why i would want to pay more, would take some thinking about.
No point in taxing the already overtaxed ntl network.

If your dissatisfied and you feel that your not getting vfm the simple solution is to go back to dialup, its cheaper than 600k and then you wont be contibuting to the overtaxed NTL BB network

I remember (way back) when customers were asking for a 1meg service and NTL's reply was basically it will never happen because there isnt enough customers that want it, (we now have a 1meg service) in order for ntl to be competitive they must invest in a faster service to give their domestic home customers further options to spend more of their hard earned cash otherwise they will be left behind by the compitition.

Rone · 01-12-2003, 21:31

What instead of complaining??
NTL advertised 1meg amongst other things for "high speed gaming", a reason why i got it, and it was for about 3 months. After that it became a 750k connection. I dont mind paying for goods that are as they are supposed to be, not what they are'nt.

Ive had adsl for 2yrs, and over 10 on the inet, so yeh i know exactly what "value" is as you put it, or are you simply not allowed to voice an opinion??
I heard this site was a little biased, but this takes the cake.
If i dont like it, just F.O. and dont complain?
If NTL HAD the money to invest in the current setup it would be miles better, but a lot dont think they have. Unless you know different, and if its not that bad why are there so many complaints about the same problems over and over again?