Sacked by Ntl. - Page 6

Mark W · 17-10-2003, 13:18

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

You originally from liverpool or what'

lol, i actually have a very plummy southern voice - talking with this silver spoon in me gob can be a real bind you know

erol · 17-10-2003, 13:22

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Originally Posted by Mark W

This should be a flashing warning in big neon signs for NTL employees.....

last week a customer service chap got the sack for mentioning a new product ntl are brining out (tho to be fair, that was company confidential so not all that surprising), so BEWARE, big brother IS watching YOU......

As I understand it the post refered to changes of an existing product and I do not see how these could be considered 'company confidental' when NTL claims these changes were put into effect starting in April of this year.

The move of support from one office to another may have been 'company confidental' I guess.

Mark W · 17-10-2003, 13:27

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Originally Posted by erol

As I understand it the post refered to changes of an existing product and I do not see how these could be considered 'company confidental' when NTL claims these changes were put into effect starting in April of this year.

The move of support from one office to another may have been 'company confidental' I guess.

Nope, that was not ntlrebel - this is another chap, talking about a new product ntl is yet to publish......

erol · 17-10-2003, 13:30

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Originally Posted by Mark W

Nope, that was not ntlrebel - this is another chap, talking about a new product ntl is yet to publish......

oops, my mistake then. appologies

Nor · 17-10-2003, 13:38

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Originally Posted by Neil

That is absolutely $hite Nor.

I can catagorically state 100% that neither myself/Ben/Mick gave anyone any details regarding ntlrebel's post, not only that but we have not been asked about him/her either. The first I knew about this was when I read the posts this morning.

Please get your facts straight before you start spouting rubbish.

Ant H/ntlrebel-I am genuinely sorry to hear of your situation, & feel free to contact me if you feel I can be of assistance in any way.

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Originally Posted by Neil

See my reply above.

Nor-you are talking out of your ar$e-you clearly haven't thought about this at all, you have just presumed & thought you would post it to stir the $hit-grow up.

Pretty amazed at that outburst. If that was anyone else shouting that stuff they'd get it censored, seems like you are above the law though. I didn't really understand that so many people had moderator powers of the nthellworld.com website. You need moderator powers in vbullutin forums to see IP addresses, thats why I said moderators. Admittedly I don't know how many people have indescriminate power over the nthellworld.com website anymore without being accountable but its hardly an excuse to give me abuse.

NtlRebelReborn · 17-10-2003, 13:40

I can honestly say that I loved working for Ntl. I was part of an excellent team of people who really did want help as best as we could.

I really did feel passionate about the job, passionate enough to post what I did.

I really thought I was making a difference.

{FU}Fubar · 17-10-2003, 13:55

this goes to show infact that .com is no longer user controlled but yet NTL controlled, as ashg is going behind the mods/admins back so to say, if the mods hadnt reported the post then it must have been ashg, so its safe to say that .com has now indeed fallen to NTL totaly , sorry neil and co but NTL are putting this across like it is, maybe .com will now have to resort to user info rather than employees as they will be now too scared of posting , WTG NTL you lamers

Nemesis · 17-10-2003, 13:56

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Originally Posted by {FU}Fubar

this goes to show infact that .com is no longer user controlled but yet NTL controlled, as ashg is going behind the mods/admins back so to say, if the mods hadnt reported the post then it must have been ashg, so its safe to say that .com has now indeed fallen to NTL totaly , sorry neil and co but NTL are putting this across like it is, maybe .com will now have to resort to user info rather than employees as they will be now too scared of posting , WTG NTL you lamers

The post need not have been reported by Ash G, there are other eyes watching the sites.

{FU}Fubar · 17-10-2003, 14:01

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

The post need not have been reported by Ash G, there are other eyes watching the sites.

but to get the details then it must have been ashg unless more people have status there, if they do then the mods are just a front in that case

orangebird · 17-10-2003, 14:02

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Originally Posted by Nor

Pretty amazed at that outburst. If that was anyone else shouting that stuff they'd get it censored, seems like you are above the law though. I didn't really understand that so many people had moderator powers of the nthellworld.com website. You need moderator powers in vbullutin forums to see IP addresses, thats why I said moderators. Admittedly I don't know how many people have indescriminate power over the nthellworld.com website anymore without being accountable but its hardly an excuse to give me abuse.

Nor, you basically accused Neil and Ben of grassing ntlrebel up - you deserved Neils outburst entirely.....

Nemesis · 17-10-2003, 14:07

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Originally Posted by {FU}Fubar

but to get the details then it must have been ashg unless more people have status there, if they do then the mods are just a front in that case

Ash G may have been requested to provide the details, but that doesn't mean that he reported it ... remember this is an NTL site, they can request and would expect to receive details of users that are abusive, especially if they are employees.

NTLREBEL, this does not detract from the terrible way that you have been treated, and for the record I can't see why they sacked you, warning maybe.

Nor · 17-10-2003, 14:10

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Originally Posted by orangebird

Nor, you basically accused Neil and Ben of grassing ntlrebel up - you deserved Neils outburst entirely.....

I'm sure you are being quite objective.... I'll say it again though. All I understood was that vbulletin required a moderator to see the IP address or the email address. I'm not quite sure if the fella had said he'd been traced by IP address rather than email. I just put 2 and 2 together and got the 5 that it must have therefore been a mod who looked up the IP and either passed it on or tracert'd it to find the ubr. Now that I know others have moderator access other than the actual 'moderators' I wouldn't have said that but you can maybe understand why I said it ? in that to get the ip in vbulliten you need to be a moderator.

I'm glad to be wrong, and all it would take is someone being reasonable and explaining nthellworld.com now has other people with moderator access who are not accountable in the same way neil, ben etc are. Thats all it took, it didn't take accusing me of stirring, bypassing the swear filter and giving me abuse.

I just thought they might have passed the IP information along since they were the only people (that I knew of) who could do that. As for thinking that it may have been a moderator who flagged it upto the bosses, was just thinking about the way that vbulliten works and who deals with 'reported posts'.

Nemesis · 17-10-2003, 14:19

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Originally Posted by Nor

As for thinking that it may have been a moderator who flagged it upto the bosses, was just thinking about the way that vbulliten works and who deals with 'reported posts'.

It's my understanding that I could ring NTL and report a post on the .com site, without needing to report the post via the vbulletin software.

They are obliged to investigate. Alternatively, it could have been reported by another NTL member of staff, with the same outcome.

NTLRebel was unlucky in the sense that it was reoported, and whoever passed on the IP info was just doing their job.

The outcome is not a good one agreed, but only the reporter and the manager who sacked NTLRebel need to have the conscience.

{FU}Fubar · 17-10-2003, 14:19

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

Ash G may have been requested to provide the details, but that doesn't mean that he reported it ... remember this is an NTL site, they can request and would expect to receive details of users that are abusive, especially if they are employees.

NTLREBEL, this does not detract from the terrible way that you have been treated, and for the record I can't see why they sacked you, warning maybe.

Given his reputation i think he was the one who reported it, seems like typicle behavour from an NTL manager TBH

Nor · 17-10-2003, 14:21

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

The outcome is not a good one agreed, but only the reporter and the manager who sacked NTLRebel need to have the conscience.

Aye, quite agree mate.