Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
31-03-2016, 20:55
|
#76
|
|
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 68
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 43,507
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
Nobody thinks it's funny, Arthur - shame on you for saying so.
__________________
Thank you for calling the Abyss.
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare.
If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
|
|
|
|
31-03-2016, 21:01
|
#77
|
|
Still alive and fighting
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: In the land of beyond and beyond.
Services: XL BB, 3 360 boxes , XL TV.
Posts: 56,635
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
Indeed its going to be terrible for all the people who are highly likely going to be losing their jobs..
__________________
“The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itself”
|
|
|
|
|
31-03-2016, 21:08
|
#78
|
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,798
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
Hugh, I apologise for the 'shame' bit, but its frustrating. That nothing can be done to save all those jobs.
But l read this on the Beeb, website. Interesting read
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...nment-bail-out
|
|
|
|
|
01-04-2016, 13:06
|
#79
|
|
Inactive
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire
Age: 47
Posts: 13,995
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...71807702753280
Quote:
Faisal Islam @faisalislam
New tariff announced today re Chinese steel. 46%.
By China. On EU. hi-tec "Grain Oriented Electrical Steel". Made by...Tata Steel in Newport
|
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...72990408388608
Quote:
Faisal Islam @faisalislam
So China just slapped a 46% anti dumping duty on the sort of hi tech steel made by TAta Steel in Newport we're told is industry only future
|
|
|
|
|
|
01-04-2016, 14:00
|
#80
|
|
Perfect Soldier
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Worthing West Sussex
Age: 68
Services: VM 500M SH3 thingy
in modem mode
XL TV V6 Sony Bravia smart TV and M phone
Posts: 11,199
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
For peeps information "grain orientated steel" is used in electrical transformers of all sizes and is a premium product.
__________________
History is much like an endless waltz: The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.
However history will change with my coronation - Mariemaia Khushrenada
|
|
|
|
01-04-2016, 15:11
|
#81
|
|
Remoaner
Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 32,731
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
Are China purposefully trying to kill off British steel then?
|
|
|
|
|
01-04-2016, 15:17
|
#82
|
|
Trollsplatter
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: North of Watford
Services: Humane elimination of all common Internet pests
Posts: 38,078
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
Given they have a serious over-capacity problem, I suspect they're simply trying to protect their own market. You can't blame them for that. We should be doing the same thing.
|
|
|
|
|
01-04-2016, 16:28
|
#83
|
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Kairdiff-by-the-sea
Age: 69
Services: TVXL BBXL Superhub 2ac (wired) 1Tb Tivo
Posts: 10,183
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
Given they have a serious over-capacity problem, I suspect they're simply trying to protect their own market. You can't blame them for that. We should be doing the same thing.
|
And let is not forget that the steel industry was built upon the back of the coal industry, especially in the UK. The sharp decline in the coal industry, especially in regard to it's effect on pollution, has been having a knock-on effect on the steel industry for a few decades at least. Not so in China where coal production and use is still rising.
TATA has been trying to negotiate cheap power prices in the UK which suppliers were refusing to do.
|
|
|
|
|
01-04-2016, 16:29
|
#84
|
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,725
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
Putting aside the free market logic to the demise of PT, are there not arguemnts where market intervention should be considered?
- when the industry represents a strategic asset/skill set that is in the National interest to retain
- when the market is being artifically manipulated to remove competition with a view to future price increases when the competition is gone
- when the UK, as part of a larger trading block, should consider tarrifs to advantage block suppliers over Chinese ones. Isn't this what the US did to protect its interests: U.S. Calls for 256% Tariff on Imports of Steel From China ?
Are we sure our Government are taking these into due consideration?
__________________
Unifi UCG Ultra + Unifi APs | VM 1Gbps
|
|
|
|
|
01-04-2016, 16:32
|
#85
|
|
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 68
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 43,507
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
Our Government also has to take EU regulations and guidelines into consideration - it is not a free player in this matter (not saying whether it is a good thing or not, just pointing the fact out).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...nment-bail-out
__________________
Thank you for calling the Abyss.
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare.
If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
|
|
|
|
|
05-04-2016, 09:06
|
#86
|
|
Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Biggleswade
Age: 41
Services: VM Vivid 200
VM XL TV & Sky Sports
VM Phone
Posts: 895
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-35962358
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by The BBC
Mr Gupta said the idea was "we would look to transition from blast furnaces to arc furnaces, from imported raw material to domestically available scrap, from making carbon steel to making what we call green steel - melting and recycling scrap using renewable energy."
|
Oh wait, didn't I say exactly this earlier? May I have a job in consultation for the steel industry please? 
|
|
|
|
|
05-04-2016, 09:20
|
#87
|
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: #Plagueisland
Age: 54
Services: VM VIP Pack
Posts: 1,712
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
You do have to ask why the UK government vetoed a beefing up of the EUs anti dumping regulations - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ur-with-china/
|
|
|
|
|
11-04-2016, 13:01
|
#88
|
|
Still alive and fighting
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: In the land of beyond and beyond.
Services: XL BB, 3 360 boxes , XL TV.
Posts: 56,635
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
__________________
“The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itself”
|
|
|
|
|
11-04-2016, 15:08
|
#89
|
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Kairdiff-by-the-sea
Age: 69
Services: TVXL BBXL Superhub 2ac (wired) 1Tb Tivo
Posts: 10,183
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
Greybull actually announced the same investment in December of last year, but as a shareholder.
|
|
|
|
|
18-04-2016, 18:05
|
#90
|
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Kairdiff-by-the-sea
Age: 69
Services: TVXL BBXL Superhub 2ac (wired) 1Tb Tivo
Posts: 10,183
|
Re: Here we go again - Port Talbot to axe 1,000 steel jobs
Quote:
|
China has vowed to reduce the amount of steel it makes, Business Secretary Sajid Javid said.
|
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36073140
And thus the price will rise.... they're not daft are they....
|
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:49.
|
Join CF
You are here: 
