[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
08-06-2015, 01:07
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
What a surprise.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...e-sack-eu-exit
How very presumptuous for anyone who seriously wanted this referendum to be anything other than a box ticking exercise to assume that the results of negotiations would be positive.
It looks like it's exactly as Carswell said - get a few concessions for political, rather than any practical, reasons, put the appropriate spin on them to portray them as a glorious victory and go full throttle for an 'in' vote.
Pretty much the same kind of BS that was sold to the electorate over the £1.7 billion bill last year.
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08-06-2015, 07:56
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
What a surprise.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...e-sack-eu-exit
How very presumptuous for anyone who seriously wanted this referendum to be anything other than a box ticking exercise to assume that the results of negotiations would be positive.
It looks like it's exactly as Carswell said - get a few concessions for political, rather than any practical, reasons, put the appropriate spin on them to portray them as a glorious victory and go full throttle for an 'in' vote.
Pretty much the same kind of BS that was sold to the electorate over the £1.7 billion bill last year. |
He can spin it all he wants, i will be voting to leave the EU. I would hope lots more do as well.
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08-06-2015, 08:17
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
Some will. Many will probably swallow the BS every bit as willingly as they have over the past 5 years.
Add them to the big businesses who make a ton of money out of the corporatist EU, add the idealistic who think we should all be singing around the camp fire singing the EU anthem with free movement of everything and complete open door immigration and I wouldn't rate the chances of winning too highly.
On the upside it does mean you can retire in Malta freely under the free movement rules.
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08-06-2015, 08:59
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
Sadly, but thankfully, the public's 'nose' has been acutely attuned to BS over the last couple of decades. UKIP secured a great many votes despite their perceived lack of other policies and IMHO the referendum could well go against Cameron in spite of all the resources which will no doubt be directed at ensuring we stay in.
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08-06-2015, 09:05
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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On the upside it does mean you can retire in Malta freely under the free movement rules.
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I could anyway, my wife and her family are from Malta.
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08-06-2015, 11:43
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
It looks like Cameron's approach is not going doing too well with others in his party.
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08-06-2015, 12:23
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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What a surprise.
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Not really,
Cameron is well known to be pro-europe.
He is on record as saying he does not want to be remembered as the prime minister that took the UK out of the EU.
He only offered the referendum to head off the UKIP vote.
But at least we will have a referendum. I am definitely in the undecided camp.
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08-06-2015, 13:16
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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The Prime Minister, who is attending the G7 summit in Germany, has entered a significant climb-down from earlier ultimatum to Cabinet minister that they should resign if they want to back leaving EU
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Mr Cameron's spokeswoman insisted that the Prime Minister had only said that members of the Government would have to resign during the renegotiation phase leading up to the announcement of a referendum if they wish to campaign for Britain to leave the EU.
Mr Cameron has not made a decision about whether ministers would have to quit if they campaign for a British exit, Downing Street claimed.
It appears to leave open the possibility of ministers being able to campaign for Britain to leave the EU.
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Furious back peddling as he overstepped the mark and risked damaging Tory splits. 
Cameron will recommend we stay in the EU even if he gets no significant changes but he'll doll it up like something really good. If his lips begin to move be afraid.
Once the millions in North Africal arrive at Calais having been ferried across the med by the royal navy...
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08-06-2015, 13:36
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Once the millions in North Africal arrive at Calais having been ferried across the med by the royal navy...
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The best time for a referendum is when the above reaches such a peak even the hardened Liberals who would allow anyone and his brother in will start complaining enough is enough. Maybe around summer next year 
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08-06-2015, 13:43
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The best time for a referendum is when the above reaches such a peak even the hardened Liberals who would allow anyone and his brother in will start complaining enough is enough. Maybe around summer next year |
There is never a limit for them, so you'll be holding off until hell freezes over for that one.
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08-06-2015, 16:59
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
It must go ahead . I will be voting NO.
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08-06-2015, 17:08
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
They should sack him.
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08-06-2015, 17:31
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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They should sack him.
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Well, if you can't get him voted out......
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08-06-2015, 17:39
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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I could anyway, my wife and her family are from Malta.
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You won't like it there, full of immigrants, porous borders
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08-06-2015, 17:50
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Well, if you can't get him voted out...... |
It will come sooner than you think.
you'll be sitting there eating your sausage, egg and beans. and on the TV there will be 'Breaking News - Cameron Ousted Out!'
it will happen. believe me.
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