80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
31-12-2011, 14:20
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
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I'm now convinced that you are just trolling.....nobody is that ignorant!!!
If you aren't, then your over confidence makes you dangerous.
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I've been a member of this forum for 8 years an was a member of the forum that preceeded this one.......... If I was a troll I'm sure I would have been pulled up over it before now.
On the contrary it is I that find your views ignorant.
I shall waste my time with you no more. Just remember to reflect and take a good sniff of what you're shovelling once in a while.
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31-12-2011, 14:37
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan
Some Fire Services have started a scheme where they visit 15 to 18 year olds at schools and colleges. And through videos, lectures, and practical demonstrations, they hope to scare teenagers out of becoming boy (or girl) racers.
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Better way is to take them to real accidents and morgues. It's harder to blank out when you can smell what's going on.
Have a simulator that can give some idea of impacts at slower speeds then get them to work it out at more realistic speeds.
Get some onto track and show how easy it is to loose control, especially in the wet/icy/dirt/rough road. Especially in the sort of car they are likely to own/drive.
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31-12-2011, 14:46
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
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Better way is to take them to real accidents and morgues. It's harder to blank out when you can smell what's going on.
Have a simulator that can give some idea of impacts at slower speeds then get them to work it out at more realistic speeds.
Get some onto track and show how easy it is to loose control, especially in the wet/icy/dirt/rough road. Especially in the sort of car they are likely to own/drive.
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Sadly though there will always be people like Pierre who think they will always know better than proffesionals who deal with idiocy like his every day
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31-12-2011, 14:57
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
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Better way is to take them to real accidents and morgues. It's harder to blank out when you can smell what's going on.
Have a simulator that can give some idea of impacts at slower speeds then get them to work it out at more realistic speeds.
Get some onto track and show how easy it is to loose control, especially in the wet/icy/dirt/rough road. Especially in the sort of car they are likely to own/drive.
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Ah but you see these drivers are perfect and don't need any of that guff. Even at 100mph plus they can see black ice, diesel spills, sharp objects on the road and the like. Their senses are honed to expect the unexpected and can even predict freak events like blowouts secure in the knowledge that their superior driving skills will always see them out of trouble. Frankly I'm surprised that drivers as good as these guys must be ever get involved in serious accidents at all but I expect it's all the fault of everyone else on the roads.... 
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31-12-2011, 15:22
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
I think some people are taking this far too seriously.
some think that anyone in uniform in an official government vehicle are superior drivers, and all others are useless too.
some think that having this certificate makes you a superior driver, and not having one means you're useless.
some think that we should have a TV show where the useless and the superior compete. but only the superior are allowed blue lights. the useless have to have purple. 
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31-12-2011, 15:24
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
Bless....
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31-12-2011, 15:32
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
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31-12-2011, 15:36
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
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I think some people are taking this far too seriously.
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That's because to those of us who have lost friends or family because of stupid driving think it is serious
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31-12-2011, 15:46
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
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That's because to those of us who have lost friends or family because of stupid driving think it is serious
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Ok, but in a few years the government may raise the speed limit to 100mph on the motorway anyway. and those who say they sometimes drive at 100mph anyway can no longer be called irresponsible, careless or dangerous.
we have got to teach ourselves at the moment about people who drive at 80mph that they are no longer seen as a social misfit.
our government really knows how to pull our strings, don't they.
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31-12-2011, 15:53
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
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Thanks. but I was born blessed already.
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Special, perhaps - blessed, unlikely.... 
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31-12-2011, 16:00
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
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Are you suggesting we're related?
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31-12-2011, 16:04
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
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Nah, I was overseas at the time you were born.....
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31-12-2011, 16:41
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
Won't matter what the speed limit is soon anyway. The roads will be too congested to do more than 30 regardless.
However, I will side with those who say speed does not kill. It will always be failing to drive to the road conditions at speed that causes the problems. I regularly travel with someone who seems to have one speed - 40mph. He has been stopped for speeding in the same place (a wide road with good visibility) 3 times on the trot. Yet for most of the time he is well under the speed limit.
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31-12-2011, 16:45
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
No it's not the actual speed that kills..It's driving at higher speeds NOSE TO TAIL that is the biggest danger.
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31-12-2011, 18:46
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Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
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Originally Posted by Pierre
I've been a member of this forum for 8 years an was a member of the forum that preceeded this one.......... If I was a troll I'm sure I would have been pulled up over it before now.
On the contrary it is I that find your views ignorant.
I shall waste my time with you no more. Just remember to reflect and take a good sniff of what you're shovelling once in a while.
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You have been pulled up for it before. I have seen many of your posts that appear to have been made just to get a reaction. After all, nobody could be stupid enough to really believe the things you have been saying.
It's quite simple, no matter how skilled you think you are at driving, it is never going to be safe to drive at 100mph+ without any form of warning system. It doesn't take a genius to work that out.
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh
Better way is to take them to real accidents and morgues. It's harder to blank out when you can smell what's going on.
Have a simulator that can give some idea of impacts at slower speeds then get them to work it out at more realistic speeds.
Get some onto track and show how easy it is to loose control, especially in the wet/icy/dirt/rough road. Especially in the sort of car they are likely to own/drive.
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Well as we have seen, there are still some people who would say "it wasn't my fault, I'm too skilled to have caused an accident".
Apart from that you are spot on. Did you see the youtube clip I posted earlier in the thread?
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