Riots

[denphone]

It seems trouble is spreading to Enfield.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/20...ce-duggan-live

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...riot-live.html

[iain_herts]

great getting nearer to me. just seen a few police car going from local station in the enfield direction

[denphone]

Just saw this on twitter

Police car wrecked in Enfield - most rioters looked under 16, lots of young girls throwing concrete slabs through shop windows.

Originally Posted by denphone

Just saw this on twitter

Police car wrecked in Enfield - most rioters looked under 16, lots of young girls throwing concrete slabs through shop windows.

To be fair it's hard to know if that's a riot or just a typical night out in Enfield.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/20...-live#block-44

Initial ballistics tests on the bullet that lodged in a police officer's radio when Mark Duggan died on Thursday night show it was a police issue bullet, the Guardian understands.

Anyway. I see a lot of people are automatically assuming the police account of the events are legit. We do not know this, there is a investigation. It's too early to say if this was as clear cut as they make out and it's also too early to assume the police made a mistake.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Damien

To be fair it's hard to know if that's a riot or just a typical night out in Enfield.

It could be a copycat bandwagon type of thing just to get a few headlines

Originally Posted by Derek

In any other country in the world someone shooting at the Police and getting killed would be written off in a matter of days. Here it gets passed to the IPCC to sit on it for months before coming out with a report.

Because there should be a investigation! That doesn't mean the police are guilty but you don't write off someones death in a matter of days because the police did and they say he fired first.

[devilincarnate]

If there was no-one against them, They would stop? So if they all just stopped and left it alone it would be a-lot better? IMHO

[budwieser]

Originally Posted by Damien

To be fair it's hard to know if that's a riot or just a typical night out in Enfield.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/20...-live#block-44



Anyway. I see a lot of people are automatically assuming the police account of the events are legit. We do not know this, there is a investigation. It's too early to say if this was as clear cut as they make out and it's also too early to assume the police made a mistake.

" Initial ballistics tests on the bullet that lodged in a police officer's radio when Mark Duggan died on Thursday night show it was a police issue bullet, the Guardian understands. "

" police issue bullet" What exactly defines a Police issue Bullet?

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by budwieser

" police issue bullet" What exactly defines a Police issue Bullet?

It hurts

Originally Posted by budwieser

" Initial ballistics tests on the bullet that lodged in a police officer's radio when Mark Duggan died on Thursday night show it was a police issue bullet, the Guardian understands. "

" police issue bullet" What exactly defines a Police issue Bullet?

Well:

The bullet which was found lodged in the radio of one of the officers at the scene is still undergoing forensic tests. But reliable sources have said the first ballistics examinations suggested it was a police issue bullet.

These are very distinct as the Metropolitan Police uses dum dum type hollowed out bullets designed not to pass through an object.

The early suggestion from the IPCC was that the Met officers had returned fire after someone in the minicab opened fire. But the result of the ballistics early test suggests both shots fired came from the police.

[budwieser]

Originally Posted by Damien

Well:

Any gun can fire a Hollow point bullet.
I mean, they`re not exclusive to the police.

Originally Posted by Damien

To be fair it's hard to know if that's a riot or just a typical night out in Enfield.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/20...-live#block-44



Anyway. I see a lot of people are automatically assuming the police account of the events are legit. We do not know this, there is a investigation. It's too early to say if this was as clear cut as they make out and it's also too early to assume the police made a mistake.

i find it hard to believe that the police would try to cover up a shooting in such a sloppy way

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Originally Posted by budwieser

Any gun can fire a Hollow point bullet.
I mean, they`re not exclusive to the police.

exactly ,i refer to my earlier post about the media inflaming the situation

[Derek]

Yep the Police are the only people in London who have hollow point bullets...

http://gangsinlondon.blogspot.com/20...um-bullet.html

They discovered a converted 38 Brocock revolver containing two factory-made bullets in its chamber - one was a ‘flat head’ or ‘dum dum’ bullet, which expands on impact causing extensive internal injuries.

Originally Posted by Derek

Yep the Police are the only people in London who have hollow point bullets...

http://gangsinlondon.blogspot.com/20...um-bullet.html

Well we need to see what type of gun the suspect had. I am not saying the police killed him and covered it up, I am saying we need to wait and see until all the facts come out.

[budwieser]

I ued to shoot fullbore pistol and Hollow points are the worst for damage causing.