Another protest against plans for a new mosque

[Gary L]

Here's a few pieces about the traffic problems caused from the mosque being in a residential area.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/12947...e-of-the-west/

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Counci...ing.6134277.jp

http://www.gothamgazette.com/article...0100301/3/3197

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Originally Posted by sollp

Like it or not, agree with them or not, i see more people getting violent and more protests over all these issues,(race, religion,immigration).

Good point. one which I said earlier. it has to mean something, but it just gets ignored by the powers that be and the ignorants.

Originally Posted by Xaccers

It illustrates the maximum permissible parking spaces, not minimum.
So when it says 1 parking space per 3 or 5 seats, it does not mean that there must be 1 per 3 or 5, but it means there cannot be more than 1 per 3 or 5.
So depending on the local regulations they might only be allowed a maximum of 1000 car parking spaces to be built.

Would you like to try again?

would you like to read it properly

No Specifi c Class‘Sui Generis’

Churches and ChurchHalls

1 space per 3 seats

Churches shall have aminimum of 1 coach space

Minimum of 10 perunit

note the word MINIMUM

it doesn't make sense to apply a Maximum number of parking spaces why would any developer wether building a mosque or a supermarket have more spaces than required

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Where these houses subject to compulsory purchase for some reason? Who bought them, the council? Where did the people who lived in the houses go to?

the mosque is built on the grounds of a small collection of industrial units owned by the L.A and sold to the mosque which caused a lot of controversy at the time with the ocupants of the units as for the houses they where demolished as part of the regeneration program as with scotswood

[Xaccers]

minimum of 1 coach space, minimum of 10 cycle bays.
maximum of 1 space per 3 seats.
The reason for this is mentioned earlier in the document where it talks about encouraging the use of other forms of transport.

Look, I'll even quote from the second article you posted to make it clearer ok?

MAXIMUM PARKING FOR CUSTOMERS, VISITORS & STAFF
CLASS D1 – Non Residential Institutions
Churches & Places of Worship – 1 space/5 seats or 5m2 public floor area

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Look, I'll even quote from the second article you posted to make it clearer ok?

Churches & Places of Worship – 1 space/5 seats or 5m2 public floor area

Am I working this out wrong? in the case of a 5,000 capacity mosque the maximum parking spaces is 1,000?

what's the minimum?

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Churches & Places of Worship – 1 space/5 seats or 5m2 public floor area

Am I working this out wrong? in the case of a 5,000 capacity mosque the maximum parking spaces is 1,000?

what's the minimum?

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[Gary L]

So you can see the objection to the building of a mosque in a residential area more clearly now then.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Gary L

So you can see the objection to the building of a mosque in a residential area more clearly now then.

No. Unless you have allocated parking, your house does not come with a guarenteed parking space outside it.
Often our road will be full of other people's cars, unrelated to the mosque, people are just having parties or something else is going on, and I have to park one of my cars the other side of the road, or around the corner.
We could petition the council to make the road parking for residents only, or permit parking only, as anyone could.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

No.

Everybody else can

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Everybody else can

Sorry Gary, I expanded on my answer while you were replying.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Sorry Gary, I expanded on my answer while you were replying.

The expansion was there I just snipped what looked like political excuses out.

[Xaccers]

Anyone who does object can put their reasons forward and attempt to get the plan rejected. It's been done successfully on several occasions.
Of course so far we've heard such great arguments against them as (to paraphrase) "they're so busy they impact on parking, but I don't know why they'd need another one a few miles away"

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Anyone who does object can put their reasons forward and attempt to get the plan rejected. It's been done successfully on several occasions.
Of course so far we've heard such great arguments against them as (to paraphrase) "they're so busy they impact on parking, but I don't know why they'd need another one a few miles away"

They'd just class it as racist probably. unless it was Tescos, then the "they're so busy they impact on parking, but I don't know why they'd need another one a few miles away" would probably have the planning rejected.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Gary L

They'd just class it as racist.

then how have several mosques had their planning rejected if such objections are just dismissed as racist?

http://www.lsjnews.co.uk/2009/10/15/...tion-rejected/

The recommendation of the Head of Planning Services was that planning permission be refused “because of the unacceptable harm which the traffic and parking demands generated by the use will have on highway safety and on the amenity of local residents.”

So there you go, a mosque rejected because of its impact on traffic and parking.

[Gary L]

Sorry Xaccers, I expanded on my answer while you were replying.

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

So there you go, a mosque rejected because of its impact on traffic and parking.

So much for the minimum requirement of 0 parking spaces.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Sorry Xaccers, I expanded on my answer while you were replying.

It's easily done.

Originally Posted by Gary L

So much for the minimum requirement of 0 parking spaces.

How do you work that out? It was rejected because the impact on traffic and parking in the area would have on the highway safety and amenities of the residents. No mention of a requirement for a minimum number of parking spaces that must be provided by the mosque.
It goes to show that in the areas where mosques have been built, they don't impact highway safety or the amenities of the residents in an unacceptable way.