smoking and the pub

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Exactly! If I want to go to a pub, I can't because of smokers. They are doing something there that actively damages my health if I go there. How about if I was to go to a public place and spray a carcinogenic substance around on a regular basis the sole reason being that I find it relaxing and enjoyable to do so........unreasonable? Thats what smokers do...and then they say that if we don't like it we shouldn't be where they are!
Nice...thanks!

Do you drive a car if you do then you are doing exacly that.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Bifta

Well, if you want to spray a carcinogen down your throat and then exhale it into the air surrounding you .. that's entirely up to you, i have no problem with it.

Thats 'cos you do it already.....spare a thought to those of us who don't and don't want to.
.....and you are exhaling a carcinogen as well, affecting those around you whether they want to be affected or not..........unless we avoid those places you go to, even if we want to be there as well.....thanks....nice

Originally Posted by Bifta

Well, if you want to spray a carcinogen down your throat and then exhale it into the air surrounding you .. that's entirely up to you, i have no problem with it.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Bill C

Do you drive a car if you do then you are doing exacly that.

You want to start a new thread?

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Exactly! If I want to go to a pub, I can't because of smokers. They are doing something there that actively damages my health if I go there. How about if I was to go to a public place and spray a carcinogenic substance around on a regular basis the sole reason being that I find it relaxing and enjoyable to do so........unreasonable? Thats what smokers do...and then they say that if we don't like it we shouldn't be where they are!
Nice...thanks!

Do you not have any non smoking pubs in your area. I do and thats where i go unless i am with friends who smoke then i make the choice to go with them to a pub that allows them to smoke.

Originally Posted by Ramrod

You want to start a new thread?

Yep i was going of topic there .Read my other reply above

[Julian]

IMO there should be smoking and non-smoking pubs.

It simply isn't reasonable to expect non-smokers to have to endure smoking in all pubs....conversely it is unreasonable for non-smokers to expect all pubs to be non-smoking.

Originally Posted by Julian

IMO there should be smoking andnon-smoking pubs.

It simply isn't reasonable to expect non-smokers to have to endure smoking in all pubs....conversely it is unreasonable for non-smokers to expect all pubs to be non-smoking.

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by Julian

IMO there should be smoking and non-smoking pubs.

It simply isn't reasonable to expect non-smokers to have to endure smoking in all pubs....conversely it is unreasonable for non-smokers to expect all pubs to be non-smoking.

So further to that, if I am in a smoking pub, would it be reasonable to ask for a non-smoker to be ejected?

Originally Posted by Nikko

So further to that, if I am in a smoking pub, would it be reasonable to ask for a non-smoker to be ejected?

Theres always one

[Julian]

Originally Posted by Nikko

So further to that, if I am in a smoking pub, would it be reasonable to ask for a non-smoker to be ejected?

LOL no m8, they just accept that there are alternatives.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Nikko

So further to that, if I am in a smoking pub, would it be reasonable to ask for a non-smoker to be ejected?

yes if they are complaining

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

yes if they are complaining

They could always sit outside and not smoke

I don't want their annoyng moans wafting over me when i am chuffing

[Salu]

Originally Posted by Bifta

Well, if you want to spray a carcinogen down your throat and then exhale it into the air surrounding you .. that's entirely up to you, i have no problem with it.

Even if I was blowing it down your throat?

[andygrif]

Originally Posted by Salu

That's not a choice. That's enforced discrimination. What about the antithesis? If you want a fag DONT go to a public place. Stay at home.

But so is what you're proposing. At least with my suggestion you have the chouce of where to go if you don't want to be near smokers. What you're proposing is an outright ban on any smoking in public places. What I'm proposing is places where people who choose to smoke can go, and those that choose not to can go. You can't have it both ways.

Originally Posted by Salu

Yes I used to smoke as a kid but my main motivation is from seeing so many people die. Maybe unneccessarily.

You know what they say about ex-smokers You should take it up again - it'll help you relax!

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Exactly! If I want to go to a pub, I can't because of smokers. They are doing something there that actively damages my health if I go there. How about if I was to go to a public place and spray a carcinogenic substance around on a regular basis the sole reason being that I find it relaxing and enjoyable to do so........unreasonable? Thats what smokers do...and then they say that if we don't like it we shouldn't be where they are!

Why are you criminalising the smoker, when the person you have the problem with (reading between the lines) is the owner of the establishment? If smoking is permitted in a location then they will smoke there.

Originally Posted by Bill C

Do you not have any non smoking pubs in your area. I do and thats where i go unless i am with friends who smoke then i make the choice to go with them to a pub that allows them to smoke.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Julian

IMO there should be smoking and non-smoking pubs.

It simply isn't reasonable to expect non-smokers to have to endure smoking in all pubs....conversely it is unreasonable for non-smokers to expect all pubs to be non-smoking.

Agreed, just like I said about three pages back. I wouldn't want any non-smoker to have to endure any location where they might be offended or afraid for their health. Therefore more non-smoking pubs are the way forward...just one problem - they don't make any money - so do non-smokers not go to the pub?

Originally Posted by Nikko

They could always sit outside and not smoke

I don't want their annoyng moans wafting over me when i am chuffing

That's OK, your coughing will drown them out