Riots - Page 56

Pierre · 10-08-2011, 18:34

This is what happens when trash breeds trash.

devilincarnate · 10-08-2011, 18:35

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1920: In a further Libyan response to unrest in the UK, Libya's official news agency Jana has published a report urging the UN to protect British "protesters" from "repression".

Pot and kettle spring to mind here

thenry · 10-08-2011, 18:36

That was expected. I'm surprised its taken so long.

Sparkle · 10-08-2011, 18:36

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Originally Posted by Pierre

This is what happens when trash breeds trash.

It may surprise you to know, that's an American saying. In the years I spent growing up up in the States, that's what they say: trash breeds trash.
I don't like the expression, but there appears to be some truth to it.

denphone · 10-08-2011, 18:37

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Originally Posted by Pierre

This is what happens when trash breeds trash.

Most definitely.

devilincarnate · 10-08-2011, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Sparkle

It may surprise you to know, that's an American saying. In the years I spent growing up up in the States, that's what they say: trash breeds trash.
I don't like the expression, but there appears to be some truth to it.

I prefer the expression "contempt breeds contamination", But are able to see where you are coming from.

denphone · 10-08-2011, 18:48

l thought this was a interesting piece from Max Hasting who says years of liberal dogma have spawned a generation of amoral, uneducated, welfare dependent, brutalised youngsters and l totally agree with his sentiment.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...ed-youths.html

**Maggy** · 10-08-2011, 18:49

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14465546

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Police may be able to use rioters' mobile phone information to help convict them, say legal experts.
Investigators can apply to see the contents of text and instant messages, as well as their location.
However, authorities may not be able to access the full wealth of data available to telecoms companies because of legal restrictions.
Guidelines require police to find out individuals' identities first before obtaining records from trouble spots.

devilincarnate · 10-08-2011, 18:50

These 2 are what we need:

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1938: "Blacks, Asians, Whites, we all live in the same community. Why do we have to kill one another? What started these riots and what's escalated them? Why are we doing this? I lost my son. Step forward if you want to lose your sons. Otherwise, calm down and go home," Mr Jahan tells the BBC.

1936: Tariq Jahan, whose 21-year-old son, Haroon, died after he was run over by a car in Birmingham, has called for people not to resort to vigilantism against rioters and asked his community to ''stand united".

And also this as well to help those that have lost everything in regards to rioting?

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1944: Labour MP Chuka Umunna tweets: News in relation to the exceptional funding pot to compensate for unrest which we've been calling for is likely in the next 24 hours.

Both from here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675

**Hugh** · 10-08-2011, 18:53

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Originally Posted by denphone

l thought this was a interesting piece from Max Hasting who says years of liberal dogma have spawned a generation of amoral, uneducated, welfare dependent, brutalised youngsters and l totally agree with his sentiment.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...ed-youths.html

Nothing like a sweeping generalisation to help denigrate and negativise an entire generation, is there?

Max forgets that a lot from that generation are in the Armed Forces, serving in Afghanistan, and most of my son's and daughter's friends (who are of that generation) are hard-working polite young people.

Let's not let the actions of a minority of knobheads tar an entire generation, eh?

devilincarnate · 10-08-2011, 18:54

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14465546

Does not seem to be going down well with the reports?

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In a statement posted on the website, the group said: "You Will _NOT_ assist the UK Police because if u do innocent members of the public who were at the wrong place at the wrong time and owned a Blackberry will get charged for no reason at all, the police are looking to arrest as many people as possible to save themselves from embarrassment.

"If you do assist the police by giving them chat logs, GPS locations, customer information & access to people's BlackBerry Messengers you will regret it, we have access to your database which includes your employees information; e.g - Addresses, Names, Phone Numbers etc. Now if u assist the police, we _WILL_ make this information public and pass it onto riotersâ€¦. do you really want a bunch of angry youths on your employees doorsteps?

"Think about itâ€¦and don't think that the police will protect your employees, the police can't protect themselves let alone protect othersâ€¦if you make the wrong choice your database will be made public, save yourself the embarrassment and make the right choice. Don't be a puppet."

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...don-riots.html

denphone · 10-08-2011, 19:00

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Nothing like a sweeping generalisation to help denigrate and negativise an entire generation, is there?

Max forgets that a lot from that generation are in the Armed Forces, serving in Afghanistan, and most of my son's and daughter's friends (who are of that generation) are hard-working polite young people.

Let's not let the actions of a minority of knobheads tar an entire generation, eh?

l totally agree that we can;t tar everybody with the same brush but some of his comments did hit the nail on the head as far as the terrible attitude of some of these youngsters but yes there are plenty of young people who work hard, show respect and contribute a lot to our society.

Mal · 10-08-2011, 19:04

Link

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Originally Posted by BBC News

Rioters in Manchester and Salford have been told that they face being evicted from their council homes if they are identified on CCTV footage.

Both city councils have issued warnings that if any of their tenants or their children have been involved in violence or looting they will be "thrown out".

Good.

Also, here is the link to the GMP's Twitter page, for updates on any trouble...

http://twitter.com/#!/gmpolice

devilincarnate · 10-08-2011, 19:07

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Originally Posted by Mal

Link

Good.

Also, here is the link to the GMP's Twitter page, for updates on any trouble...

http://twitter.com/#!/gmpolice

Yes it is very good but would it not be in the breach of their human rights? Plus also if they are on benefits would the council still have to pay for them

denphone · 10-08-2011, 19:09

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Originally Posted by Mal

Link

Good.

Also, here is the link to the GMP's Twitter page, for updates on any trouble...

http://twitter.com/#!/gmpolice

And if they do get evicted then they will have totally deserved it.

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Yes it is very good but would it not be in the breach of their human rights? Plus also if they are on benefits would the council still have to pay for them

What about the human rights of the poor victims.