19-02-2005, 16:01
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
4Mbit DIA Plus will set you back 4 figures a month I'm afraid...
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19-02-2005, 16:06
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by Ignition
4Mbit DIA Plus will set you back 4 figures a month I'm afraid...
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Lol, imagine the 45mb DIA line.......i dred to think the cost per month for that
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19-02-2005, 20:33
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by scrotnig
Do you honestly think they'd care?
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NTL and any ISP's must take notice if alot of customers demand something new or to change. If NTL was to notice a massive decline in their users but a massive increase in their AOL users they would have to compare their products and reliase what they're doing wrong. Because NTL has leased out their lines to AOL they've in many ways removed their monopoly over NTL customers, something i'm sure other companies wouldn't have been as stupid to do.
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19-02-2005, 20:46
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by pdjkeelan
NTL and any ISP's must take notice if alot of customers demand something new or to change. If NTL was to notice a massive decline in their users but a massive increase in their AOL users they would have to compare their products and reliase what they're doing wrong. Because NTL has leased out their lines to AOL they've in many ways removed their monopoly over NTL customers, something i'm sure other companies wouldn't have been as stupid to do.
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If you knew the facts of the AOL deal you wouldn't say that.
Remember, they don't have to do the marketing, support or billing for it. It's a great deal for ntl. Far from them being stupid, the only stupid thing is that they haven't yet got more reseller deals. There's big money to be had there.
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19-02-2005, 21:12
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by scrotnig
If you knew the facts of the AOL deal you wouldn't say that.
Remember, they don't have to do the marketing, support or billing for it. It's a great deal for ntl. Far from them being stupid, the only stupid thing is that they haven't yet got more reseller deals. There's big money to be had there.
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I know they will make alot of money via AOL, but i bet they make more money through their own service.
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19-02-2005, 21:13
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by pdjkeelan
I know they will make alot of money via AOL, but i bet they make more money through their own service.
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Not so actually.
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19-02-2005, 23:40
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
there is a article that i read today about how microsoft wish to explore the possibility on how to stop piracy on xbox2. They want to investigate the possibility of starter discs at low prices upon if you like it you then download the next level/levels and pay for it that way to cut out/limit piracy.
The thing is with BB caping this makes the whole thing pointless, or forcing you to go on highest tiers and still possible for you to go over limiting you on what ypou can do. NTL should be showing the way forward instead of throttling the internet. What with new idea's comming out and per per view movie downloads - of which none we can do due to these poxy limits and not having any choice to go elsewhere!
Blair say everyone should have BB, BB revolution and all that Cr@p - thing is he forgot to say you can onl use it X hours a day before you get switch off of limited.
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19-02-2005, 23:52
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
Yeah I read recently that the Half Life 2 style of delivery (a 4GB download) will become more and more the norm for delivering content such as DVDs on demand and games. The whole thing kind of feels like 1 step forward and 2 steps back, all this new wealth of content is coming that wasn't there before, but now we face new limitations. I did some reasearch on ISP's which offer extra GB's of bandiwdth to be purchased and some actually charge £1.50+ per GB! thats one hell of a premium when you think that I pay $6 (£3) a month for 250GB of bandwidth on a hosting package I use. Oh well give me an option NTL please - 50GB! I will pay I promise!
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20-02-2005, 00:03
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
at least ntl should do 1 tier unlimited even if it costs more - say 4meg unlimited £49.99 a month, why they hell they got 2 meg and 3 meg at 30gig cap now after lowering the 3meg 40gig cap to 30gig is just a joke.
who's goona pay extra to reach the same limit quicker?
I know when it comes into effect i'm going from 1.5meg to 3meg upon which i'll downgrade to 2 meg and save myself £10 a month or whatever it is and still be faster than what i was on. Seems like another stupid error on NTLs part.
if i was pricing tiers this is what i would come up with:
1meg=£1 7.99 - 10gig cap
2meg=£2 8.00 - 30gig cap
3meg=£3 9.99 - 60gig cap
4meg=£4 9.99 - unlimited
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20-02-2005, 00:14
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
NTL are probably thinking that despite massive increases in speed, people will not want to download more, they will just be happy with the same amount of data delivered faster. Yeah right.
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20-02-2005, 00:48
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
ntl are probably thinking 'we have the best part of 2 million customers, and the marginal few leechers that we would like to dispense with are starting to get a bit windy & posting a lot, recently'
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20-02-2005, 00:55
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by BIGZIPZ
NTL are probably thinking that despite massive increases in speed, people will not want to download more, they will just be happy with the same amount of data delivered faster. Yeah right.
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Amazing but in most cases true.
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20-02-2005, 01:00
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
NTL, Thinking .... now theres a thought
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20-02-2005, 01:09
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
The way i see it ntl just want to be ahead of BT, and with bt getting rubbisher and rubbisher, the future is only bleak for ntl
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20-02-2005, 01:25
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by jtwn
The way i see it ntl just want to be ahead of BT, and with bt getting rubbisher and rubbisher, the future is only bleak for ntl 
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I would dispute that BT is getting worse, they are in fact getting better.
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ntl are probably thinking 'we have the best part of 2 million customers, and the marginal few leechers that we would like to dispense with are starting to get a bit windy & posting a lot, recently'
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No, no, no, no, no.
People need to get the idea out of their heads that ntl even give a monkeys what goes on on websites such as this.
It's easy to get the idea that you're dictating policy, but you aren't. I can assure you, as I've said many times before, that what a couple of hundred people say on a website does NOT influence policy decisions for over a million broadband customers.
Please, let's all bring some reality into the situation.
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