09-07-2023, 19:50
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
You wouldn’t advocate them breaking the law, would you?The law needs to change before we can stop the boats. You don’t really need me to explain that to you.
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But nowhere in the migration bill that is illegal does actually stop boats.
You are hoping that people who are risking their lives to cross don’t make a calculation that they will not get caught. Those we catch now already get detained and that doesn’t stop them.
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I think that’s a misreading of the situation. The cabinet does not want to air such disagreements in public if they can avoid it. They have enough on their plates as it is.
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The misreading of the situation is entirely on your part. This Government is determined to break the inflation spiral on the back of hard working people in this country. Bringing in migrant labour does exactly that without any consideration for the impact on public services and/or housing.
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09-07-2023, 21:24
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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They are clearly a problem
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“a” problem, not the “the” problem.
97% of immigration is totally 100% within the government’s control, yet despite promises to reduce it, it is spiralling upwards out of control.
3% is Afghans, Albanians, Eritrean’s, Libyan’s and other assorted undesirables, that could easily be reduced, if not eliminated.
It’s all within the government’s control, but they’re not doing it.
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09-07-2023, 22:44
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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Originally Posted by Pierre
“a” problem, not the “the” problem.
97% of immigration is totally 100% within the government’s control, yet despite promises to reduce it, it is spiralling upwards out of control.
3% is Afghans, Albanians, Eritrean’s, Libyan’s and other assorted undesirables, that could easily be reduced, if not eliminated.
It’s all within the government’s control, but they’re not doing it.
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Indeed while OB feigns interest in housing and public services he completely ignores the far bigger number that’s going in the wrong direction.
I’ll pre-empt his “gotcha” that the ones we pick will be net tax payers going into work. Yes, jobs that could have been done by Brits if firms just showed some entrepreneurial spirit rather than take the lazy approach of importing workers. They won’t have brought a house with them either.
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10-07-2023, 13:00
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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Originally Posted by jfman
Indeed while OB feigns interest in housing and public services he completely ignores the far bigger number that’s going in the wrong direction.
I’ll pre-empt his “gotcha” that the ones we pick will be net tax payers going into work. Yes, jobs that could have been done by Brits if firms just showed some entrepreneurial spirit rather than take the lazy approach of importing workers. They won’t have brought a house with them either.
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Well said, and spot on.
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15-07-2023, 18:51
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
Ben Wallace to quit as defence secretary at next Cabinet reshuffle
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66213245
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Ben Wallace says he will resign as defence secretary at the next Cabinet reshuffle.
He told the Sunday Times he would not stand at the next general election, but ruled out leaving "prematurely" and triggering a by-election.
Mr Wallace has served as defence secretary under three different PMs and played a high-profile role in the UK's response to the war in Ukraine.
Sources told the BBC they expect the next reshuffle in September.
His Wyre and Preston North constituency is set to disappear under upcoming boundary changes and he told the newspaper he would not seek a new one.
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15-07-2023, 23:09
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
If anyone knows when to desert a sinking ship I’d hope it’s the defence secretary.
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15-07-2023, 23:12
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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If anyone knows when to desert a sinking ship I’d hope it’s the defence secretary.
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I’m sure a future at BAE systems awaits.
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15-07-2023, 23:31
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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I’m sure a future at BAE systems awaits.
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Agreed.
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15-07-2023, 23:41
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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I’m sure a future at BAE systems awaits.
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Coming to us....! Farnborough ....
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16-07-2023, 12:01
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
Tory MP Andrew Rosindell has not attended parliament for more than a year since arrest
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9...abe95eac8af618
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A Conservative MP has not attended parliament for more than a year after being arrested for sexual offences, misconduct in public office and more.
Andrew Rosindell, 57, has been under investigation by the Metropolitan Police since January 2020 and was formally arrested in May last year.
He denies any wrongdoing and is on police bail, which has been extended five times. He has not been charged and therefore remains innocent.
After agreeing to a request to stay away from the parliamentary estate by the Tory chief whip, he has not voted or spoken in the House of Commons since May last year. However, his constituents do not know that their MP is under investigation or that he has agreed not to attend parliament while police inquiries continue.
… According to Rosindell, 25 to 30 people took part in the vote to adopt him as their candidate. An official from party HQ and a rep for the London East area supervised the event.
A party source claimed it would have been “unlawful” to inform the participants of Rosindell’s predicament. They included officers of the local association and representatives from wards within the constituency.
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16-07-2023, 15:59
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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I know him, I asked for his support in DBS reforms (which eventually were adopted btw) and his secretary said on more than one occasion that he was a crook, I thought she was joking
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27-07-2023, 08:17
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
Why Kwasi Kwarteng under the Truss premiership buried the OBR forecasts at the time of the chaotic mini Budget.
https://www.ft.com/content/355fb096-...-email:content
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06-08-2023, 15:20
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
All you need to know about Sunak and the Tory priorities:
https://twitter.com/BladeoftheS/stat...24739799015424
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The revelation that Sunak has paid £1M in tax in the last 3 years 0.13% of his £720m wealth.
While the average person has paid about £45k or 14%, 100x as much.
Should open your eyes to just how much and how blatantly the rich dodge tax
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65040300
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In the last financial year alone, 2021-2022, the prime minister earned more than £1.9m in income and capital gains, according to the records.
Capital gains are taxed at 20% in the UK, while the highest income tax band is 45% on earnings over £150,000.
The records show the total UK tax he paid was:
£227,350 on total earnings of £1,018,389 in 2019/20
£393,217 on total earnings of £1,777,581 in 2020/21
£432,493 on total earnings of £1,970,992 in 2021/22
Nimesh Shah, chief executive of tax advisory firm Blick Rothenberg, pointed out that Mr Sunak only released a summary of his income and gains, rather than a traditional tax return filed with HM Revenue & Customs.
"Whilst the public knows more now than it did before the release, it doesn't show the full picture," he said.
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Sunak was taxed at 22% on his earnings that he declared. Of course, what he accrued on his wealth off-shore is unknown. He’s paying tax rates that are roughly the same as the average nurse earning £37,000.
Now compare his tax rate with yours ...
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06-08-2023, 15:51
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
@Ian
Sorry, but your last was a disgusting post. It was personal and, indeed, rabid.
Whete is the evidence that Sunak has avoided any tax he should have paid? Or is it just the envy that he is rich and most others are not?
Sunak came onto politics rich and that’s no reason not to stay rich anr reap the benefits of his past investments.
You’ve surpassed any of you other vitriolic replies.
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06-08-2023, 16:04
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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@Ian
Sorry, but your last was a disgusting post. It was personal and, indeed, rabid.
Whete is the evidence that Sunak has avoided any tax he should have paid? Or is it just the envy that he is rich and most others are not?
Sunak came onto politics rich and that’s no reason not to stay rich anr reap the benefits of his past investments.
You’ve surpassed any of you other vitriolic replies.
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If who a mere news reader is texting for pictures of them in the buff is in the public interest, then the financial interests, wealth (or otherwise) of the most important decision makers in the country is equally so.
If you are naive enough to think, against all the logic of any rational capitalism, they can place all their own interests aside for a mere two hundred grand a year (less for others) then you continue to live in la-la land.
It’s not envy to ask who this country is being run in the interests of given the greatest fall in average living standards since the war, energy companies trousering billions, banks the same, and the water companies doing the same while ploughing human excrement into our waterways while we pay for the pleasure.
The only vitriol is yours. Presumably because even you can’t defend the indefensible. You can only prevent someone from prompting you to.
Nobody accused Sunak of avoiding tax - it’s a red herring. The question is who does (and who doesn’t) pay tax and why. The revolving door between the big consultancies and the Treasury should be a warning sign to anyone.
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