16-11-2017, 14:59
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Mick
Why do you think it won't ?
Either way, Socialism does not work. Surely you see this with Venezuela ?
This is exactly what JC represents and he is a good buddy of President Maduro, who is now running a dictatorship. You want this for the UK ?
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Surely the world is full of examples of socialist paradises...
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16-11-2017, 15:04
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
More Original project Fear rears its head.
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Only my fears will be real, not fiction like yours will be. It's not project fear, when it will be reality, Corbyn refused to condemn Maduro, he bloody idealizes his regime for all things being absolutely equal.
It will be 100% socialism guaranteed with Corbyn as Prime Minister!
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16-11-2017, 15:15
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Re: Brexit discussion
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16-11-2017, 16:14
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Mick
Why do you think it won't ?
Either way, Socialism does not work. Surely you see this with Venezuela ?
This is exactly what JC represents and he is a good buddy of President Maduro, who is now running a dictatorship. You want this for the UK ?
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No I don't think it will (but was aware of the potential ups and downs when I voted).
I see Venezuela isn't working but I think even you will agree that to say "Socialism is Venezuela and Venezuela is Socialism" is a pretty blinkered view. There are many other 'socialist' countries .
And as to what JC represents, I suppose because he's left wing it's inconceivable that he could change his stance - I mean who could imagine a PM who one day stands on one side of an argument then the next day.....
Anyway Mick, now I've answered your questions how about you answer the one I asked you?
Cheers
Dave
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16-11-2017, 16:31
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth
Anyway Mick, now I've answered your questions how about you answer the one I asked you?
Cheers
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I've answered such a question many times.
But to answer yours. I again, can say, we will bode well when we leave the EU. Because Europe is a declining market. Btw Londons is still growing, despite Brexit, despite all the claptrap saying it would not, straight after a leave vote.
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16-11-2017, 16:32
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Mick
I've answered such a question many times.
But to answer yours. I again, can say, we will bode well when we leave the EU. Because Europe is a declining market. Btw Londons is still growing, despite Brexit, despite all the claptrap saying it would not, straight after a leave vote.
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If you're going by economic growth then Europe is outpacing us at the moment.
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16-11-2017, 16:48
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Damien
If you're going by economic growth then Europe is outpacing us at the moment.
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Damien, you've been warned before about bringing your "EU is outperforming the UK" facts to this thread before. Only negative facts about the EU permitted here!
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16-11-2017, 16:56
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Re: Brexit discussion
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If you're going by economic growth then Europe is outpacing us at the moment.
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Still does not remove the fact that, leaving the EU will not be a disaster the remain side hopes it to be.
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16-11-2017, 17:06
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Still does not remove the fact that, leaving the EU will not be a disaster the remain side hopes it to be.
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That's not a fact Mick, that's a prediction.
Europe's economy growing faster than the UK is a fact.
(And why would anyone who lives in the UK and has children hope for a disaster ? )
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16-11-2017, 17:22
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Mick
Still does not remove the fact that, leaving the EU will not be a disaster the remain side hopes it to be.
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One never said it would be a disaster leaving but nor will leaving be the great panacea to cure all our ills unless one has rose tinted glasses on..
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Damien, you've been warned before about bringing your "EU is outperforming the UK" facts to this thread before. Only negative facts about the EU permitted here!
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Why is that as l thought this was a democratised forum where all churches are welcomed.
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Originally Posted by Mick
Why do you think it won't ?
Either way, Socialism does not work. Surely you see this with Venezuela ?
This is exactly what JC represents and he is a good buddy of President Maduro, who is now running a dictatorship. You want this for the UK ?
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Indeed it does not but nor does unfettered capitalism work either.
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16-11-2017, 18:18
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Mr K
That's not a fact Mick, that's a prediction.
Europe's economy growing faster than the UK is a fact.
(And why would anyone who lives in the UK and has children hope for a disaster ? )
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So what's different to you calling the decision to leave 'dumb' then ?
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16-11-2017, 18:19
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Re: Brexit discussion
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So what's different to you calling the decision to leave 'dumb' then ?
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Think you're confusing me with Mr Bloomberg.
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16-11-2017, 18:37
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Think you're confusing me with Mr Bloomberg.
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I think selective memory springs to mind, you’ve pushed this ‘Brexit is dumb’ argument way before Bloomberg made his baseless opinion.
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16-11-2017, 18:56
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Re: Brexit discussion
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I think selective memory springs to mind, you’ve pushed this ‘Brexit is dumb’ argument way before Bloomberg made his baseless opinion.
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ok, I'll bite, point to my Brexit is dumb post....
(pauses while Mick spends the evening searching through 2 Years of posts )
I've maybe just put an alternative remain argument. If you want a boring echo chamber just say
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16-11-2017, 18:58
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Re: Brexit discussion
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So what's different to you calling the decision to leave 'dumb' then ?
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Hypocrisy.
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