Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
20-05-2019, 12:29
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by Raider999
If you read my post you will see I never said they had, only that they have exclusive broadcasting rights - which is true
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I also read the post you were replying to and quoted, especially this bit.
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but there are very few, if any, compelling Sky productions on there these days.
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20-05-2019, 12:41
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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I also read the post you were replying to and quoted, especially this bit.
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Ones taste is in the eye of the beholder as we all have different tastes at the end of the day.
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20-05-2019, 12:50
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by Raider999
What about Game of Thrones - sky exclusive with a very large following over a number of years
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Yes, the channel we've been denied on Virgin Media! It is a Sky exclusive, but not a Sky production. It is courtesy of HBO, which may itself launch a subscription service of its own or through its parent company.
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20-05-2019, 13:08
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Yes, the channel we've been denied on Virgin Media! It is a Sky exclusive, but not a Sky production. It is courtesy of HBO, which may itself launch a subscription service of its own or through its parent company.
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And that has exactly what to do with what people like to watch on Sky.
Most people don't care who produces the content they either like it or not.
Sky buys lots of third party content in from the States and other countries.
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20-05-2019, 13:14
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
And that has exactly what to do with what people like to watch on Sky.
Most people don't care who produces the content they either like it or not.
Sky buys lots of third party content in from the States and other countries.
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Precisely.
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20-05-2019, 13:20
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
And that has exactly what to do with what people like to watch on Sky.
Most people don't care who produces the content they either like it or not.
Sky buys lots of third party content in from the States and other countries.
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The quality of which is not as good. All the really good stuff is going to streaming.
It's funny that in an attempt to prove me wrong, only one show - Game of Thrones - could be named, and that isn't even owned by Sky! Says it all, really.
It will be interesting to see what is on in its place. More repeats of GoT, no doubt!
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Precisely.
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It was an irrelevant comment you highlighted there, jfman. My point was that the TV companies will have to start producing their own material to survive, as BBC and ITV were doing.
And the answer to that is that Sky are showing HBO's Game of Thrones! Proved my point, really.
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20-05-2019, 13:30
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
You are conflating two issues. One being there’s no quality on linear TV (when there is) and the other being TV companies will (I would say “may”) have to produce more of their own content.
TV companies around the world will be in exactly the same boat in your post apocalyptic dystopia. There will always be scope to pool resources or buy from independent production companies.
All the “good stuff” going to streaming is entirely subjective. You’re also ignoring that Comcast are a major content owner distributor themselves.
Game of Thrones brings up something else though with this being considered a significant series drawing to a close worldwide and everyone engaging with it at roughly the same time.
Something that will be lost if series just get dropped in one go due to the entire audience watching episodes at different rates. A subscription tv series may never be as talked about it as popular again.
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20-05-2019, 13:38
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
A few we've enjoyed
The Tunnel
Patrick Melrose
Chernobyl
Strike Back
Lucky Man
Fortitude
The kids or other family members of our house enjoyed
The David Walliams programme (can't think of name)
Stella
A League of their own
Plus many others and lots of third party content.
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20-05-2019, 14:18
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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The quality of which is not as good. All the really good stuff is going to streaming.
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Bollocks as there is plenty of decent content on the Linear channels.
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It's funny that in an attempt to prove me wrong, only one show - Game of Thrones - could be named, and that isn't even owned by Sky! Says it all, really.
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He could list 20 , 30 or 40 shows to you but you would still be in denial.
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A few we've enjoyed
The Tunnel
Patrick Melrose
Chernobyl
Strike Back
Lucky Man
Fortitude
The kids or other family members of our house enjoyed
The David Walliams programme (can't think of name)
Stella
A League of their own
Plus many others and lots of third party content.
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+1
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20-05-2019, 14:59
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
A few we've enjoyed
The Tunnel
Patrick Melrose
Chernobyl
Strike Back
Lucky Man
Fortitude
The kids or other family members of our house enjoyed
The David Walliams programme (can't think of name)
Stella
A League of their own
Plus many others and lots of third party content.
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Me too, and apart from Chernobyl (sorry, forgot about that one, although it is not available on VM), none of those are still airing. So Chernobyl is the only one! Game of Thrones has just ended with no further series being made. So what now?
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20-05-2019, 15:10
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Me too, and apart from Chernobyl (sorry, forgot about that one, although it is not available on VM), none of those are still airing. So Chernobyl is the only one! Game of Thrones has just ended with no further series being made. So what now?
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Recordings of new episodes scheduled this week off Sky Entertainment Channels
Arrow
Chernobyl
Blue Bloods
Seal Team
The Rookie
Riviera
Modern Family
You wrongly assume if you don't like something nobody else does.
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20-05-2019, 16:47
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by jfman
You are conflating two issues. One being there’s no quality on linear TV (when there is) and the other being TV companies will (I would say “may”) have to produce more of their own content.
TV companies around the world will be in exactly the same boat in your post apocalyptic dystopia. There will always be scope to pool resources or buy from independent production companies.
All the “good stuff” going to streaming is entirely subjective. You’re also ignoring that Comcast are a major content owner distributor themselves.
Game of Thrones brings up something else though with this being considered a significant series drawing to a close worldwide and everyone engaging with it at roughly the same time.
Something that will be lost if series just get dropped in one go due to the entire audience watching episodes at different rates. A subscription tv series may never be as talked about it as popular again.
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Where did I say there were no quality programmes on linear TV? You twist everything I say. If you look back just a few posts ago, I gave examples of quality on linear TV - Victoria, Line of Duty and Bodyguard. I said there was a diminishing amount of it on pay tv.
It is clear to me and many others that there are plenty of quality shows on streaming services. These are on the increase, while linear TV shows (with the notable exception of BBC and ITV, whose shows will soon be on Britbox) are declining.
Whether you like it or not, I'm just pointing out what's happening, not whether it is good or bad.
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Recordings of new episodes scheduled this week off Sky Entertainment Channels
Arrow
Chernobyl
Blue Bloods
Seal Team
The Rookie
Riviera
Modern Family
You wrongly assume if you don't like something nobody else does.
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Chernobyl, Blue Bloods and Riviera are all Sky Atlantic programmes, not available on VM (yet). Modern Family and Arrow appeal to a certain audience - no-one I know watches them. I think these are aimed at a much younger audience.
I haven't watched The Rookie or SEALTeam yet so I can't pass judgement on them, but really, is that the best we can come up with? Do you really think those few shows are worth over 50 quid a month? Look what you get on Netflix for a tenner! There's no comparison.
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20-05-2019, 16:50
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
Britbox is doomed before it starts and that is just not my opinion but the words of prominent media analysts.
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20-05-2019, 16:55
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Britbox is doomed before it starts and that is just not my opinion but the words of prominent media analysts.
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Well, at least it won't be long before we will be able to make a judgement on the validity of that typically downbeat view, Den!
I trust you've taken account of the popularity of the BBC i-Player before posting that view.
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20-05-2019, 17:06
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Well, at least it won't be long before we will be able to make a judgement on the validity of that typically downbeat view, Den!
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Its the downbeat view of prominent analysts unless you think they are talking rubbish.
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I trust you've taken account of the popularity of the BBC i-Player before posting that view.
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Why are people going to subscribe to Britbox when a lot of the content has already been shown and seen plus many of their shows they don't even own the rights to.
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