07-11-2021, 18:20
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Re: Coronavirus
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Also, I thought the sore arm was just because of having an injection
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The sore arm is inflammation caused by the vaccine. They use a very fine needle so jab itself should be painless unless they made a right cods of it.
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08-11-2021, 10:13
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Re: Coronavirus
It was reported to me about a risk of pericarditis for pacemaker users receiving Pfizer booster but a brief google can't find exact details other than a known side effect on some younger males. I am male and while I like to think of myself as "younger" I really don't fit into that category any more.
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08-11-2021, 10:22
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Re: Coronavirus
Still have a slightly sore arm from Saturday's booster but that's it.
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08-11-2021, 14:32
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh
It was reported to me about a risk of pericarditis for pacemaker users receiving Pfizer booster but a brief google can't find exact details other than a known side effect on some younger males. I am male and while I like to think of myself as "younger" I really don't fit into that category any more.
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It mostly affects young males, but not exclusively. But it's rare.
Lots of info on the subject if you dig about here:
https://www.youtube.com/c/Campbellte...y=pericarditis
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
The sore arm is inflammation caused by the vaccine. They use a very fine needle so jab itself should be painless unless they made a right cods of it.
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Had flu jab this morning. Felt nothing at the time, but headache and strange taste in mouth kicked in about 10 minutes later. Now slowly dissipating.
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08-11-2021, 15:23
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Re: Coronavirus
The idiots are at it again.
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Covid-19: Anti-vax protests outside schools
The BBC has been told of bullying and harassment by anti-vaccination campaigners outside some schools in the UK. The Shadow Education Minister, Peter Kyle, says such incidents are “ubiquitous” in his constituency, Hove. There are now calls for schools to be able to employ fast track exclusion zones to tackle the problem.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-59208984
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08-11-2021, 16:13
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Paul
Well my main jabs were Pfizer, so hopefully the booster will be as well.
I had no reactions to J1 or J2. Mines a couple of days before Hugh (on the 24th).
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I get mine the 15th at a local chemist. It would have let me book today but 6 months isn't up till Saturday. The boosters could be happening every 6 months I reckon
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08-11-2021, 16:16
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
I get mine the 15th at a local chemist. It would have let me book today but 6 months isn't up till Saturday. The boosters could be happening every 6 months I reckon
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Are you looking forward to jabs 4-5 and 6......
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08-11-2021, 16:18
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Re: Coronavirus
OK . . who's bought shares in the vaccine manufacturers?
Looks like a better return than Bitcoin if Covid is here to stay
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08-11-2021, 16:35
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Are you looking forward to jabs 4-5 and 6......
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We may not get any further jabs, depending on whether the population has gained a sufficient amount of immunity which is regularly topped up with reinfections.
This assumes no new variants that are of sufficient concern to take further vaccination measures.
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08-11-2021, 16:49
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
We may not get any further jabs, depending on whether the population has gained a sufficient amount of immunity which is regularly topped up with reinfections.
This assumes no new variants that are of sufficient concern to take further vaccination measures.
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there's money still to be made so vaccines will continue for the foreseeable future.
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08-11-2021, 17:11
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
We may not get any further jabs, depending on whether the population has gained a sufficient amount of immunity which is regularly topped up with reinfections.
This assumes no new variants that are of sufficient concern to take further vaccination measures.
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Rubbish.
Plans are afoot for annual vaccinations. Given efficacy for the first two rapidly declines after six months there's no reason to expect a third to provide infinite immunity.
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08-11-2021, 17:16
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
Rubbish.
Plans are afoot for annual vaccinations. Given efficacy for the first two rapidly declines after six months there's no reason to expect a third to provide infinite immunity.
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I agree, it'll be an annual vaccination just like the flu jab.
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08-11-2021, 17:31
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Are you looking forward to jabs 4-5 and 6......
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if they are needed then I do not mind
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
We may not get any further jabs, depending on whether the population has gained a sufficient amount of immunity which is regularly topped up with reinfections.
This assumes no new variants that are of sufficient concern to take further vaccination measures.
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to many anti vaxxers so there will be variants and come on this virus is not acting normally immunity appears to wane quite quickly meaning people can get it 2 maybe even 3 times a year. I know people had it twice already
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08-11-2021, 17:34
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
We may not get any further jabs, depending on whether the population has gained a sufficient amount of immunity which is regularly topped up with reinfections.
This assumes no new variants that are of sufficient concern to take further vaccination measures.
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Is there an oxymoron in there, OB?
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08-11-2021, 18:52
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Is there an oxymoron in there, OB?
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No oxymorons, Seph. I think it was a scientist on the radio who was talking about just relying on the circulation of Covid to keep immune systems topped up.
This article touches on it, but is not optimistic that this can be achieved in the short term. But as yet, we don’t know for sure. With the vaccinations protecting us, there will no longer be drastic consequences due to natural infection or re infection, so you could rely on that to avoid the need for constant re-vaccinations.
[EXTRACT FROM British Medical Journal]
Antibodies and reinfection
Over time covid-19 could become a disease first encountered in early childhood, when it would typically cause mild infection or none at all, Jennie Lavine, an infectious disease researcher at Emory University in Atlanta, USA, told Nature. Although that defence would wane quickly and not be sufficient to block reinfection entirely, it could be enough to protect adults experiencing severe symptoms.
Scientists consider this scenario likely because it matches four existing endemic coronaviruses—OC43, 229E, NL63, and HKU1—but it is not certain. A large study has shown that levels of neutralising antibodies start to decline after around six to eight months after infection with SARS-CoV-2.2 If a new infection arises, memory B cells can manufacture antibodies and T cells that can eliminate virus infected cells, but it has yet to be established whether this immune memory can block viral reinfection.
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