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Old 11-08-2007, 17:14   #781
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

It is as stated above a matter of record Stuart that they did leave the kids more then once or twice and established a pattern of behaviour for any **** that was watching as obviously at least one was.
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Actually, I said they *could* be amazing parents. I didn't say they were. WE DON'T KNOW. They made ONE mistake. ONE. One incident, however tragic, does not necessarily reflect the quality of their parenting.
One 'mistake' clearly does reflect the quality of their parenting - they went out for dinner whilst leaving 3 children with the combined age of 7 alone in their apartment.
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Old 11-08-2007, 18:50   #783
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

782 Posts later and some people are still arguing about the same thing, over and over again. We know the parents shouldn't have gone to dinner, leaving their very young children alone, this has been said throughout the thread. It's becoming a very stupid and tiresome debate now that it's becoming past its use by date. Such threads are soon subject to imminent closure.
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Old 11-08-2007, 18:53   #784
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

But even the mainstream news is still making the same points!
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Old 11-08-2007, 19:06   #785
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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782 Posts later and some people are still arguing about the same thing, over and over again. We know the parents shouldn't have gone to dinner, leaving their very young children alone, this has been said throughout the thread. It's becoming a very stupid and tiresome debate now that it's becoming past its use by date. Such threads are soon subject to imminent closure.
Surely you can't possibly be thinking of closing this thread? The debate has been very civilised considering the strength of feelings involved.
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Old 11-08-2007, 19:35   #786
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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782 Posts later and some people are still arguing about the same thing, over and over again. We know the parents shouldn't have gone to dinner, leaving their very young children alone, this has been said throughout the thread. It's becoming a very stupid and tiresome debate now that it's becoming past its use by date. Such threads are soon subject to imminent closure.
A thread with 5316 pointless posts about what music people are listening to, but that's ok. A proper discussion on what is just about the most discussed topic for years, and it's tiresome? Surely the only time it's past its date is when the case is closed to a point of nothing left to discuss. If you don't like the subject just don't contribute/subscribe to it, why stop everyone else.
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Surely you can't possibly be thinking of closing this thread? The debate has been very civilised considering the strength of feelings involved.
I concur. Even though I disagree with some of the opinions stated by some, I am enjoying this thread.
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Old 11-08-2007, 19:42   #788
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I think it would be wrong to close the thread to be honest at the end of the day it is an ongoing news subject and as long as that is the case threads will keep popping up better surely to keep it in one place.
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Old 11-08-2007, 19:45   #789
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782 Posts later and some people are still arguing about the same thing, over and over again. We know the parents shouldn't have gone to dinner, leaving their very young children alone, this has been said throughout the thread. It's becoming a very stupid and tiresome debate now that it's becoming past its use by date. Such threads are soon subject to imminent closure.
No offence but if you close the thread you will be doing so just because you want to not because its against the sites terms and conditions that would be unjustified

The press has turned on the parents it seems dirt is being dished. I feel its crazy this didnt happen at the start. We all know what the press is like so why pretend to be nice? This thread had gone quiet till the press bought it back to the fore
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

As anyone seen todays edition of the Daily Express, it claims in there, that the police have seized a car, that was used on the night of the abduction, with one or two people involved, and it you read it carefully, it does state that a British driver disappeared just after ' Maddie ' was abducted, and he is being followed by detectives, and this is being done by BRITISH POLICE, doing the investigation, it also states that the Portegese Police will not reveal what they are doing, l also compliment this forum and its members for there openess on this article, it goes to show the frankness that we can express, about something, that is a very touching subject at the moment, l hope she is still alive.
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

also, 700+ posts later, what more do we really know about this incident?
very little.

kid still gone
no sign of her
no ransom
no evidence to link any real suspects

just kid, disappears, not heard of for 100 days & no one seems to know where she's gone.

i too hope she is still alive but depending on who took her and why, she might be in a lot more pain than if she were dead.
Soundshorrible i know but i'd hate to think of the child at the mercy of some evil whatever you wanna call them, like the little girl who's parents were just sentenced for her torture and death a few days ago.
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Mick just so we are clear are you posting the above as a moderator.
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i too hope she is still alive but depending on who took her and why, she might be in a lot more pain than if she were dead.
Soundshorrible i know but i'd hate to think of the child at the mercy of some evil whatever you wanna call them, like the little girl who's parents were just sentenced for her torture and death a few days ago.
I agree, the only instance in which i'd rather wish her dead would be if she was suffering unbearable mental or physical pain.
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Old 11-08-2007, 20:33   #794
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I think it's a gimme slug that he was speaking as a mod.
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No offence but if you close the thread you will be doing so just because you want to not because its against the sites terms and conditions that would be unjustified
No it is not because I want to. You, nor nobody else knows what 'I want' so don't make silly assumptions about what I desire. I will tell you why this thread should be closed and it is going to be closed if people don't bring up new points. (Bit late for this but there is always room for fresh debate).

It is because it is going round in pointless circles. Need I remind people of the terms of use of this site and in particular:-

We may, for content management purposes, close a thread. This would usually be because the discussion in the thread is not moving along, users are not covering new points, or that the discussion is going around in circles.

Our terms of use are not negotiable, so some of you should not be telling me or arguing with me, what the team can and cannot do. If some of you continue to tell me or any other team member, what we can or cannot do - I shall start to suspend accounts.
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